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Old 08-16-2012, 12:16 AM   #2221
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For being in existence a relatively short time, the Mariners have a had a nice group of "generational" talents in their history. Alex Rodriguez, Ken Griffey Jr., Randy Johnson, and we might be seeing another in Felix Hernandez right now. Then they have a couple other great players that fall below those guys like Edgar Martinez and Ichiro. No World Series titles but their fans sure have had some awesome players to watch on a regular basis.
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:23 AM   #2222
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Felix sit at 92-93, but he can hit 96 when he wants to.

He's not out there slinging 97 consistently because he doesn't need to. He's a pitcher now and it's evident in his numbers compared to when he was throwing super hard early in his career.

He could sit at 90 and still be a true ace.

I mentioned the fact that he is a pitcher now and not a thrower. And it's not an issue NOW; but if velocity continues to drop, it becomes an issue.

lol at Dickey being named as a true ace. At least Peavy has some history, he's just been injured a lot which has hurt his stock. I would tend to agree Peavy was an ace at one time, but he isn't anymore. The thing is, at the top of the top, there are only 3-4 pitchers that are super elite (Verlander, Weaver, Kershaw). Then you have elite pitchers (Felix, Strasburg, Price etc). And then there's a drop from elite to very very good pitchers (Hamels, Bumgarner, Cain etc).

Halladay would be in the super elite aces if he we healthy. Last two starts have been very encouraging. The fact is, the drop between super elite to very very good pitchers isn't big. In any given year, they can interchange, but I like to reward consistency in my rankings...
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:29 AM   #2223
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1B ump just gave you an extra out in the 9th.
Stop complaining.
Yep he did. The problem is the Yankees consistently play with a different strike zone than their opponent
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:33 AM   #2224
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I want to suck Mike Trout's d*** and I don't care who knows or what anyone thinks.

This man has single-handedly carried all four of my fantasy baseball teams and I got him for literally a bag of chips.
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:42 AM   #2225
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I didn't know that, after the Curse of Bambino was reversed, there has been the new one called the Curse of Ben Affleck, where Red Sox has never won a game on Affleck's birthday since the release of "Good Will Hunting".
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:14 AM   #2226
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I mentioned the fact that he is a pitcher now and not a thrower. And it's not an issue NOW; but if velocity continues to drop, it becomes an issue.

lol at Dickey being named as a true ace. At least Peavy has some history, he's just been injured a lot which has hurt his stock. I would tend to agree Peavy was an ace at one time, but he isn't anymore. The thing is, at the top of the top, there are only 3-4 pitchers that are super elite (Verlander, Weaver, Kershaw). Then you have elite pitchers (Felix, Strasburg, Price etc). And then there's a drop from elite to very very good pitchers (Hamels, Bumgarner, Cain etc).

Halladay would be in the super elite aces if he we healthy. Last two starts have been very encouraging. The fact is, the drop between super elite to very very good pitchers isn't big. In any given year, they can interchange, but I like to reward consistency in my rankings...


First of all, Felix could lose velocity and still be a true ace. What don't you understand about that? His pitches all have great movement, which is much more important than a couple MPH.

Bolded part is just brutal. There is absolutely no reason why Felix shouldn't be mentioned alongside Kershaw & Verlander. There's literally NO argument to be made why Felix shouldn't be in that group.
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:00 PM   #2227
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Dickey is clearly an ace.
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Old 08-16-2012, 12:38 PM   #2228
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I want to suck Mike Trout's d*** and I don't care who knows or what anyone thinks.

This man has single-handedly carried all four of my fantasy baseball teams and I got him for literally a bag of chips.
No kidding. a guy in my league dropped him when he had a bad week in may, thinking that was the end of his high streak.

I have him, mccutcheon, david wright, and due to all my ****ing pitcher injuries Im barely gonna make the playoffs if they started today.
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Dickey is clearly an ace.
One year doesn't make you an ace
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:51 PM   #2230
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Yep Jim Joyce is still a little bitch
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:53 PM   #2231
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If the Pirates crash and finish under .500 I'm done following baseball forever.
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Old 08-16-2012, 02:15 PM   #2232
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Trout is ridiculous. He should be running away with the AL MVP right now. Looking it all over I guess Cano would be 2nd in that race but he's so far behind that it hardly deserves a mention. Cano (or someone else on a playoff team) would need to have a huge September to trick the stupid voters (you know, the ones who vote for Michael Young) into not giving it to Trout.

We might be looking at a historic season from a 20/21 year old.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:09 PM   #2233
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Trout is ridiculous. He should be running away with the AL MVP right now. Looking it all over I guess Cano would be 2nd in that race but he's so far behind that it hardly deserves a mention. Cano (or someone else on a playoff team) would need to have a huge September to trick the stupid voters (you know, the ones who vote for Michael Young) into not giving it to Trout.

We might be looking at a historic season from a 20/21 year old.
miguel cabrera should be right there. he's hitting .327 with 30 HRs and a massive 103 RBIs already
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:20 PM   #2234
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Though he should be mentioned as a top candidate, defense is really what is going to separate Miggy and Trout.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:31 PM   #2235
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miguel cabrera should be right there. he's hitting .327 with 30 HRs and a massive 103 RBIs already

Trout has 93 runs, 22 HR's, is hitting .340, and all in 83 less AB's and at the age of 20.



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