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Old 11-07-2012, 06:35 PM   #3691
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The Mets have released Jason Bay.

They will still have to pay him the remaining 21 million dollars left on his contract.
Get him, Jays!
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:43 PM   #3692
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AL MVP Finalists: Trout, Cabrera, Cano, Hamilton, Beltre
NL MVP Finalists: Braun, Buster, Yadier, McCutchen, Headley

AL Cy Young: Price, Verlander, Weaver
NL Cy Young: Dickey, Gio, Kershaw

AL Manager: Buck, Bob, Robin
NL Manager: Dusty, Bochy, Davey Johnson

AL ROY: Cespedes, Darvish, Trout
NL ROY: Frazier, Harper, Wade Miley
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:03 PM   #3693
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AL MVP Finalists: Trout, Cabrera, Cano, Hamilton, Beltre
NL MVP Finalists: Braun, Buster, Yadier, McCutchen, Headley

AL Cy Young: Price, Verlander, Weaver
NL Cy Young: Dickey, Gio, Kershaw

AL Manager: Buck, Bob, Robin
NL Manager: Dusty, Bochy, Davey Johnson

AL ROY: Cespedes, Darvish, Trout
NL ROY: Frazier, Harper, Wade Miley
The ones who should win: Trout, Posey, Verlander, Dickey (but any of them is a good pick), Trout again and I dunno, Harper or Miley.

When it comes to who will win, the only different ones will probably be: Cabrera and Price.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:13 PM   #3694
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Get him, Jays!

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Old 11-07-2012, 10:13 PM   #3695
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Time for the Jays to acquire Justin Upton and Trevor Bauer. I would part with Gose, Yunel (or Hech), one of the three Lansing Kids (preferably not Sanchez) and couple of B level prospects...
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You'd need to give up a whole lot more than that for Bauer.

He wasn't a top 5 prospect last year for nothing. Those dudes come with a high price tag, especially pitchers.
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The fact is, if Bauer doesn't change the way he approaches batters, he's not going to be very good. He's the most inefficient pitcher I've ever watched. I watched every single one of his MLB starts and he is so frustrating, he just won't go after guys. This is probably the main reason he's fallen out of favor in the Arizona organization. He has so many strange routines and some seem to be hurting him. If he doesn't change his approach to pitching, he will flame out fast and walk more guys then he K's.
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You'd need to give up a whole lot more than that for Bauer.

He wasn't a top 5 prospect last year for nothing. Those dudes come with a high price tag, especially pitchers.
The package he just proposed is huge and would easily get Bauer, I doubt it would get Bauer and Upton though.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:19 PM   #3699
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Trevor has pitched 16 innings at the big league level, hardly any amount of time to seriously evaluate him. His stock didn't plummet, he's still an elite pitching prospect with ace stuff and potential.

If the Blue Jays can get that type of pitching prospect for Yunel, Gose & Sanchez and change....they would be dumb not to do it. Not sure why Arizona would do it though, they have potentially the most dominant young pitchers coming up through the system, why they would trade away their potential ace from that group makes no sense for the present or future.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:27 PM   #3700
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Trevor has pitched 16 innings at the big league level, hardly any amount of time to seriously evaluate him. His stock didn't plummet, he's still an elite pitching prospect with ace stuff and potential.

If the Blue Jays can get that type of pitching prospect for Yunel, Gose & Sanchez and change....they would be dumb not to do it. Not sure why Arizona would do it though, they have potentially the most dominant young pitchers coming up through the system, why they would trade away their potential ace from that group makes no sense for the present or future.
Sanchez is a young pitcher who has frontline stuff, he's just farther away, he's a top 20 prospect. Yunel is a starting MLB SS, Gose is a CF with huge tools. Not sure why the D-Backs WOULDN'T do that trade. Especially with Archie Bradley and Skaggs in the system. Bradley is better than Bauer and has tons more upside. Skaggs has frontline stuff and if MLB ready, D-Backs already have a crowded rotation and lack a starting SS or a OFer with the upside of Gose, let alone getting Sanchez. With the D-Backs pitching depth, and the feeling that the FO doesn't much like Bauer anymore, it's an easy deal for the D-Backs.

Does Bauer has the potential to be a stud? Yes. But he also has high risk, he's hardly the safe pitcher he was being billed as.

Do the D-Backs have other pitchers in the system with Bauer's upside? Yes, they have pitchers with higher upside.

Do the D-Backs have a SS in their system as good as Yunel? No.

Do the D-Backs has a OF with the upside of Gose in their system? No.

And after seeing Bauer I don't think he has ace stuff. He barely touches 95 and he has a really difficult time consistently commanding his off speed stuff. He also get's rattled when things don't go his way and loses his command completely at times.

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Old 11-07-2012, 11:28 PM   #3701
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The D-back just traded Chris Young for a SS a few weeks ago, also i think that trade might free up some $$$ to sign Upton.
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The D-back just traded Chris Young for a SS a few weeks ago, also i think that trade might free up some $$$ to sign Upton.
Cliff Pennington is a backup at best.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:59 PM   #3703
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I'm not high on Gose, his bat is extremely questionable. What tools are you talking about with him? He's fast. He can field. Steal bases.....he doesn't have any type of hitting tool, IMO.

I didn't know Sanchez was a top 20 prospect. I keep tabs on multiple sources who rank prospects and I haven't seen his name that high on any list.

I think you're selling Bauer short as a prospect. From the day he got drafted he blazed through A ball striking out guys left and right, got promoted, did the same thing...got promoted to AAA, did the same thing.....a bad overall 16 innings in his first taste of MLB hitters doesn't change any of that or his potential.

Skaggs came up and pitched equally as bad.

Archie Bradley hasn't even pitched AA ball yet I don't think....big fastball doesn't mean he's a better prospect.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:36 AM   #3704
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I'm not high on Gose, his bat is extremely questionable. What tools are you talking about with him? He's fast. He can field. Steal bases.....he doesn't have any type of hitting tool, IMO.

I didn't know Sanchez was a top 20 prospect. I keep tabs on multiple sources who rank prospects and I haven't seen his name that high on any list.

I think you're selling Bauer short as a prospect. From the day he got drafted he blazed through A ball striking out guys left and right, got promoted, did the same thing...got promoted to AAA, did the same thing.....a bad overall 16 innings in his first taste of MLB hitters doesn't change any of that or his potential.

Skaggs came up and pitched equally as bad.

Archie Bradley hasn't even pitched AA ball yet I don't think....big fastball doesn't mean he's a better prospect.

I don't think he's selling Bauer short as everything he's said is being said by multiple scouting sources. The main thing though is that he's been stubborn in listening to the Diamonback's brass by refusing to tweak his approach and its suddenly made him expendable when they have more than enough people that can anchor a rotation without him. Could be better than all of them? Yes, but he hasn't worked well with the organization to get him to that point.

Bradley also has a very mean curveball as well and a more consistent delivery. He may not be ahead on the big prospect rankings yet, but he's getting there.
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Johnny Damon, a half-Thai, is now a member of Team Thailand to compete in World Baseball Classic Asian qualifier. Well, his team will surely be destroyed by Taiwan but seeing him taking his talent and his sport to the new frontier where there are only two pro sports that Thai people care about (soccer and boxing) deserves a round of
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