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Old 11-15-2012, 08:21 PM   #3751
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damn, i honestly thought kershaw was gonna get it again this year. best ERA, WHIP, only trailed R.A. Dickey in strikeouts by 1. dickey is an amazing story though, congrats to him!

i'd still take kershaw over any pitcher in the MLB
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:08 PM   #3752
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And the idiot of this year's MVP voting goes to:

John Lowe - Detroit Free Press
- Jim Johnson, 3rd place vote
- Raul Ibanez, 10th place vote
- Robinson Cano, not even on the ballot.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:11 PM   #3753
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And the idiot of this year's MVP voting goes to:

John Lowe - Detroit Free Press
- Jim Johnson, 3rd place vote
- Raul Ibanez, 10th place vote
- Robinson Cano, not even on the ballot.
Wow...someone has to interview this moron.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:24 PM   #3754
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I think I'm kind of just learning to not care about these awards. It's fun debating them and everything, but so much about the voters just doesn't make sense that it doesn't really make it worth the effort to care much.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:34 PM   #3755
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I wish Trout would of won. But it was obvious Miggy was going to win. Really don't care about these awards anymore.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:07 PM   #3756
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The Blue Jays have signed Melky Cabrera to a 2 year/16 million dollar contract.

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Old 11-16-2012, 03:31 PM   #3757
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The Blue Jays have signed Melky Cabrera to a 2 year/16 million dollar contract.

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Jays is VERY SERIOUS about winning next season. Risky, of course, but could really worth it.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:55 PM   #3758
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Jays is VERY SERIOUS about winning next season. Risky, of course, but could really worth it.
I don't think it's risky at all. Melky is in his late 20's so there shouldn't be much of a drop-off in production in these 2 years. The money isn't that much and again, it's only 2 years. This is a good value for the Jays (thank you steroids!).
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:14 PM   #3759
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"I do not like this at all," Stanton said. "This is the 'winning philosophy?' Then to say it's not about money? What is the motivation? There comes a breaking point. I know how I feel. I can't imagine how the city and the fans feel."

Stanton, who turned 23 two weeks before the deal, reflected on last winter when the Marlins signed Jose Reyes, Mark Buehrle, Heath Bell and John Buck.

"They talked about that, a winning philosophy, and how they were building a winner to play in the new ballpark," Stanton said. "They talked about me and Jose. They talked about how they'd have Jose and [Emilio Bonifacio] and Hanley [Ramirez] in front of me and how they would go get a bat to protect me.

"Jose, Bonifacio, Hanley ... all three are gone now. I had people warn me that something like this could happen, but it runs against the competitive nature every athlete has, that nature that everything is about winning. This kind of thing is what gets talked about all the time around this team. Former Marlins come back and they warn us. It gets talked about during the stretch, in the clubhouse, after games, on the road. Again, I do not like this at all."

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Goodbye, Giancarlo. Hope you know the Marlins will work you for every bit of your generous contract before you go though.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:46 PM   #3760
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I don't think it's risky at all. Melky is in his late 20's so there shouldn't be much of a drop-off in production in these 2 years. The money isn't that much and again, it's only 2 years. This is a good value for the Jays (thank you steroids!).
Yeah, the steroid part makes the deal sounds risky. If he can still perform well, nobody will care.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:48 PM   #3761
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Goodbye, Giancarlo. Hope you know the Marlins will work you for every bit of your generous contract before you go though.
Not only did the Marlins lose JJ, Buehrle and Reyes with this trade, they also lost Stanton as well as any high profile free agents in the future
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:28 PM   #3762
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Last offseason Jeffrey Loria and David Sampson specifically promised both Jose Reyes and Mark Buehrle that they would not trade them.

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Miami Marlins fans are not the only ones feeling betrayed by ownership’s decision to break up the club.

Shortstop Jose Reyes and left-hander Mark Buehrle, two of the five Marlins headed to Toronto in a pending blockbuster, are upset that the team broke verbal promises to them regarding trades, according to major-league sources.

The Marlins do not award no-trade clauses, but club officials, while recruiting Reyes and Buerhle as free agents last offseason, assured both players that they would not be moved, sources said.

Buehrle knew the Marlins’ history of dumping high-priced players, and it concerned him, according to a friend. Team president David Samson, however, told both Buehrle and his wife, Jamie, that the team was committed to a long-term vision, sources said.

The Buehrles have two children — a son, Braden, 5, and a daughter, Brooklyn, 3. They also own a 2-year-old pit bull, Slater. The province of Ontario, where Toronto is located, bans pit bulls.

Jamie, sources said, was emotional in a conversation that she had with Samson after learning of the trade Tuesday. Samson had initiated contact with the Buehrles to inform them that a deal was imminent.

“I spoke to Mark Buerhle. He said he was sorry things didn’t work out,” Samson said in an interview with 790TheTicket, a radio station in Miami. “I said, ‘I’m as sorry as you that things didn’t work out.’”

Samson did not respond to a request to comment on the specifics of this story. Neither did Buerhle’s agent, Jeff Berry.

A source close to Reyes, asked if the shortstop also received verbal assurances from the Marlins that he would not be traded, responded, “The answer is yes. A vehement yes.”

Buerhle, 33, rejected a three-year offer from the Washington Nationals last offseason to sign a four-year, $58 million contract with the Marlins and reunite with his former Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen.

Reyes, 29, agreed to a six-year, $106 million deal, also grabbing the best financial package.

On Saturday, both officially could become Blue Jays.

The 12-player trade between the Marlins and Jays is awaiting commissioner Bud Selig’s approval and the completion of physicals. Reyes had been in Dubai, sources said, and did not return to the U.S. until Thursday night.

The Marlins also signed a third free agent last offseason, awarding a three-year, $27 million contract to closer Heath Bell.

It is not known whether the team also told Bell that he would not be traded. But the reliever, after enduring a miserable season in Miami, probably was not disappointed when the Marlins sent him to the Arizona Diamondbacks last month.

Bell declined to speak about his season with the Marlins in an interview with the Arizona media after the trade, saying he wanted to look ahead to his time with the Diamondbacks.

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Old 11-18-2012, 02:09 AM   #3763
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So, Team Japan will enter World Baseball Classic without both Yu Darvish and Ichiro. They may not beat Team Korea this time.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:31 PM   #3764
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I don't agree with what they did, but unless you get a no trade clause then you shouldn't just take a team at their word.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:36 PM   #3765
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I don't agree with what they did, but unless you get a no trade clause then you shouldn't just take a team at their word.
Pretty much. The players should've known better. In sports, unless it's signed and official, both parties will still do what is in their best interests. Much like the Cavs-Carlos Boozer situation where the player got his way, verbal confirmations don't mean a whole lot.
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