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Old 12-06-2012, 08:43 PM   #3811
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Dodgers are posturing a bit saying they might be out of the Greinke sweepstakes. Angels are apparently back in.

There've been rumors the last couple days of the winter meetings of a three or four team trade revolving around Justin Upton, but nothing came of it.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:28 PM   #3812
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Reds re-sign Ryan Ludwick

Diamondbacks sign Brandon McCarthy
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:33 PM   #3813
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It also looks like the Rangers are close to ridding themselves of Michael Young. If Young waives his no trade clause then he will likely be traded to the Phillies.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:39 PM   #3814
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Reds re-sign Ryan Ludwick

Diamondbacks sign Brandon McCarthy
Looks like McCarthy's deal is at 2 yr/15.5 million dollars

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Great signing by the D-Backs. It's amazing that Joe Blanton nearly got the same amount of money as McCarthy.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:09 PM   #3815
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Looks like Tampa is getting Yunel Escobar. That sucks. He's going to be a steal for them at his price for the next 2 years.
Escobar is a cancer. Who cares if he's playing within the division? Guy's a loser.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:47 PM   #3816
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Escobar is a cancer. Who cares if he's playing within the division? Guy's a loser.
Because he can still be a productive player and his contract is a great value. Being a "cancer" doesn't take runs off the board for his team. Cancer is stretching it a bit, he's just more of a dumbass. That's why I'd prefer a team that I hate, Tampa, not get him.
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The Miami Marlins was the only place so far that Escobar didn't wear out his welcome.
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:18 PM   #3818
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The Rangers have traded Michael Young to the Phillies for Josh Lindblom and Lisalverto Bonilla.

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Old 12-08-2012, 03:31 PM   #3819
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Being a "cancer" doesn't take runs off the board for his team.
Actually it absolutely does. What you said could not possibly be more false. Especially when you play 162 game schedule and you are inundated with guy(s) you can't stand every single day. These guys are pros but they're human too. Not to mention Escobar plays for himself and nobody else. That can hurt the way your team performs on field too. There's a reason the Braves had no problem giving him up for Alex f'ing Gonzalez. There's a reason it took Miami a whopping two weeks to decide they wanted no part of him, and it wasn't just $.

Strange post by you, Qwyj, usually a very astute baseball guy but acting like what happens in the locker room doesn't translate onto the field is something someone who has never played any competitive sports in their life would say.

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Old 12-08-2012, 03:40 PM   #3820
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Let me rephrase that then, the value he provides on the field should far outweigh any negative thing he provides in the locker-room. Clearly that's speculation but he's no Milton Bradley. And even Bradley had that amazing year with Texas where all his problems were suddenly magically forgotten. Perform and few people care what you do elsewhere.

Given his abilities and that bargain of a contract, I'd take Escobar as a starting SS any day. Especially for a cash-strapped team like the Rays. Even coming off an obvious "down year" with the bat. I don't care if he hates gays, is gay, whatever... he just needs to be smarter and realize to keep any prejudices he may have to himself. That's why I consider him a dumbass. But a skilled one.

I fully believe that if Escobar and the Jays weren't struggling, the eye-black story would not have blown up the way it did. The media here were hungry for something to pounce on with the Jays and unfortunately Escobar gave it to them.

Maybe it's just me but I'll take a gay-hating Escobar, fan-beating Bradley and drunk-driving Miguel Cabrera on my team any day as long as they are a good value for what they do on the field.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:42 PM   #3821
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Looks like Greinke is going to the Dodgers. As a Jays fan, I'm glad he's back in the NL.
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Looks like Greinke is going to the Dodgers. As a Jays fan, I'm glad he's back in the NL.
It's a 6 yr/147 million dollar contract.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:51 PM   #3823
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I hate Tampa Bay.

They just got Wil Myers + prospects for James Shields + Wade Davis...
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:52 PM   #3824
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I hate Tampa Bay.

They just got Wil Myers + prospects for James Shields + Wade Davis...



Tigers got major competition now.
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Price, Moore, Hellickson, Cobb, Niemann and Chris Archer. Still enough pitching depth for TBay...
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