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Old 04-12-2013, 09:16 PM   #376
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I'm currently 20% into ADWD and le wild idea appeared.

Pure speculation:
Could Jon Snow be the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen?
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:22 PM   #377
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I'm currently 20% into ADWD and le wild idea appeared.

Pure speculation:
Could Jon Snow be the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen?
I never heard of such a wild idea.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:37 PM   #378
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I never heard of such a wild idea.
Ok, no need for sarcasm. I was reading and it just came to my mind...
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:44 PM   #379
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Ok, no need for sarcasm. I was reading and it just came to my mind...
sorry

When i read it i honestly didnt even catch it.In my mind i still thought for some reason Benjen had to be his dad i kept coming up with scenarios why benjen would abandon jon for the wall.

Most likely R+L=J
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:02 PM   #380
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I read Daenerys chapter where Rhaegar was mentioned and then came Jon's chapter, that made me thinking. I always doubted that Jon was Ned's son, too much honor to do that I guess and he never talked about his mother. Then I remembered how Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna, they both died during the rebellion and Ned comes home with a baby.

"Dragon has three heads."
Danny and Jon make for two I guess, really wonder who's third.
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That is a very old theory (one I only found out about 2 years ago), it has a lot of people behind the possibility of a Jon Targaryen.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:28 PM   #382
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Even if he is a child of Rhaegar and Lyanne I wouldn't call him Targaryen, much more Stark traits, dark hair, warg, fire can hurt him...
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Even if he is a child of Rhaegar and Lyanne I wouldn't call him Targaryen, much more Stark traits, dark hair, warg, fire can hurt him...

Raised a Stark and with their colorings but still the name follows the fathers side.

You may have also noticed that at the Tower of Joy there were kingsguard but there was no king there.. if Lylanna and him weren't married then there is no reason for them to guard her... Lylanna's bed had blue flowers, and in Dany's prophecy in the house of the undying showed a blue rose growing in the crack under or in The Wall.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:10 PM   #384
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So many details, I love it! I will probably read all the books again before the Winds of Winter come out.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:23 PM   #385
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SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT READ BOOK 3 BELOW







Question:

I dont remember, is this how Ramsay was introduced in the books? Why would they make him kill Bolton men in the TV show?

I really can't remember if he did that in the books and if he did why would he kill his own men? (besides the fact that he's bat shit crazy)

Edit: Unless those were iron born and he hasn't gone to get the Bolton army yet to sack the city?

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Old 04-15-2013, 11:04 PM   #386
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Even if he is a child of Rhaegar and Lyanne I wouldn't call him Targaryen, much more Stark traits, dark hair, warg, fire can hurt him...
a song of fire and ice


targaryan = fire
stark = ice
jon = the song?
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:02 AM   #387
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SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT READ BOOK 3 BELOW







Question:

I dont remember, is this how Ramsay was introduced in the books? Why would they make him kill Bolton men in the TV show?

I really can't remember if he did that in the books and if he did why would he kill his own men? (besides the fact that he's bat shit crazy)

Edit: Unless those were iron born and he hasn't gone to get the Bolton army yet to sack the city?
They want to introduce him as a psychopath, what better way than to show him kill his own men to carry on with his sadistic game.
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:49 AM   #388
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This isn't exactly how they show Ramsay in the books, by the time we get to Theon all this has happened. I'm fairly certain that I remember Theon thinking about an event just like this where he had helped him escape only to catch him and bring him back to the dreadfort.
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a song of fire and ice


targaryan = fire
stark = ice
jon = the song?
I always thougth of the title as dragons vs white walkers, that it would be the final battle.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:40 AM   #390
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I always thougth of the title as dragons vs white walkers, that it would be the final battle.


That works as well, especially if the theory holds true. Jon would be more fire than ice.
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