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Old 04-30-2012, 04:40 AM   #16
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with the ability to fast forward through the crappy sketches. I think that is important to enjoying the show.

Definitely. I watch them on delay probably half the time, and it is so much better when you can fast forward the moment an annoying Wiig or Armistan skit starts.
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Wow, it must really suck then. If they can only get Fox to commit to two episodes it must be horrible and they are hoping black people will do what they do with Tyler Perry and watch it anyways.

But with TWO F*CKING SHOWS they must not even be confident about that.

They barley started filming, it was only gonna be specials aired during Fox 25th anniversary last week, but Keenen wanted to bring it back full time.
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Still, nobody talks about the other black dude in SNL cast and the second best new cast after Teran Killam, Jay Pharoah. The guy has been taking SNL rookie treatment for sometimes and still hasn't come out of that yet.
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SNL just needs to go away. It hasn't been funny in years. They need a brand new cast and new writers. The only reason it's still on right now is because of it's name and how good it used to be.


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the only thing they occasionally do well is the political stuff and even then needed Tina Fey to come back to really knock it out of the park. Plus, they lean on it so hard it gets old.
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Still, nobody talks about the other black dude in SNL cast and the second best new cast after Teran Killam, Jay Pharoah. The guy has been taking SNL rookie treatment for sometimes and still hasn't come out of that yet.

Two things come to mind when I think of Jay.

1. His impressions are really good, but he doesn't strike me as very funny. Sometimes good impressionists are mistaken for good comedians. It could be not getting a fair shake, but it also could be that he just isn't that funny.

2. Black cast members traditionally haven't gotten a fair shake. Most of the writers are white, and they never seem to know how to write roles for black cast members. Chris Rock is a perfect example of this. Rock had some decent skits, but he never had the same amount of exposure on SNL as his white counterparts, even though he was just as talented. The argument against this being true for Jay is that Kenan actually gets more skits than he should.
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the only thing they occasionally do well is the political stuff and even then needed Tina Fey to come back to really knock it out of the park. Plus, they lean on it so hard it gets old.

The political stuff is the part that makes me think that SNL may not be as good. There has been some slightly better political skits recently (mainly because the Republican party candidates skits practically write themselves), but political skits about Clinton and Bush were comedic gold while skits about Barack are difficult (plus Fred Armistan is not funny at all, making it extra tough).
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Everything he does is a variation of Bill Cosby doing variations.
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Two things come to mind when I think of Jay.

1. His impressions are really good, but he doesn't strike me as very funny. Sometimes good impressionists are mistaken for good comedians. It could be not getting a fair shake, but it also could be that he just isn't that funny.

2. Black cast members traditionally haven't gotten a fair shake. Most of the writers are white, and they never seem to know how to write roles for black cast members. Chris Rock is a perfect example of this. Rock had some decent skits, but he never had the same amount of exposure on SNL as his white counterparts, even though he was just as talented. The argument against this being true for Jay is that Kenan actually gets more skits than he should.
1. Kenan is funny, when he's playing off someone like Kel.

2. The only truly successful black cast member was Eddie Murphy (also the most successful cast member period.) I agree with Rock, but it's Damon Wayans as a better example. Homie was gettin like 2 lines when he was used (not every episode.) At least Chris had a few characters like Nat X.


I think SNL has gone for the safe black guy in recent years instead of the funny MFer in the club like they did with Eddie, Wayans and Rock (and Tracy Morgan latter on.)

I mean Tim Meadows was a cast member since 1991 and there were plenty off younger (and funnier) black guys they could have went with at that time. I bet raw cats like Eddie Griffin or a young Dave Chappelle never even crossed their minds.

Kenan Thompson is safe. His background is from freakin Nickelodeon and a starring role in a Fat Albert movie, haha.

Finess Mitchell, safe.
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:02 AM   #25
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1. Kenan is funny, when he's playing off someone like Kel.

2. The only truly successful black cast member was Eddie Murphy (also the most successful cast member period.) I agree with Rock, but it's Damon Wayans as a better example. Homie was gettin like 2 lines when he was used (not every episode.) At least Chris had a few characters like Nat X.


I think SNL has gone for the safe black guy in recent years instead of the funny MFer in the club like they did with Eddie, Wayans and Rock (and Tracy Morgan latter on.)

I mean Tim Meadows was a cast member since 1991 and there were plenty off younger (and funnier) black guys they could have went with at that time. I bet raw cats like Eddie Griffin or a young Dave Chappelle never even crossed their minds.

Kenan Thompson is safe. His background is from freakin Nickelodeon and a starring role in a Fat Albert movie, haha.

Finess Mitchell, safe.

I sorta agree with you on the 'safe' argument, but one thing we must consider is that white America and Black America have different comedic tastes in general.

So while I agree that SNL wants a 'safe' black comedian, maybe the other black comedians just don't fit SNL's comedy style?

In regards to past black comedians on SNL....maybe their ideas weren't good enough to air at that time?

Being stand up funny isn't the same as being 'writing' funny. I can have all sorts of great ideas for skits, but wouldn't be able to be a half way decent stand up comedian, and vice versa. So maybe there is some funny as hell middle of the road comedians, but aren't great writers (for tv skits) and can't really perform which is different than performing a stand up routine.

I honestly think it's a combination of the two... SNL being afraid to air a non safe black comedian, and perhaps that same un-safe black comedian isn't that great of a skit writer and performer?

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Why are Kel and Andre 3000

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Kenan T and Fat Albert

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I think SNL can let Kenan go at this point. They have had a fat guy (Bobby Moynihan) and a black guy (Jay Pharoah) to fill spots already.
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Jean K Jean is a funny character.

Hating on SNL is so played out. Sketch comedy never bats 1.000



Dude, if SNL was a ballplayer, they would have retired it by now.
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I think SNL can let Kenan go at this point. They have had a fat guy (Bobby Moynihan) and a black guy (Jay Pharoah) to fill spots already.
Didn't you see the article I posted a few spots above? This will be his last season as NBC is giving him a sitcom by next season.
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