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Old 04-30-2012, 10:40 PM   #1
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I quoted a scientific paper, word for word, and cited it correctly. My instructor said this was plagarism, and docked me points , bigtime. He said "to cite correctly, you paraphrase, you dont quote word for word"

Makes no sense. As long as I cite (Kubrick, 1982, p. 32), this should be legit, even if it is word for word.

Whos with me?
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:42 PM   #2
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If its in "quotation marks" it should be word for word. Otherwise if it wasn't, it should be paraphrased.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:45 PM   #3
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Thats weird. You should be able to use word for word passages so long as in quotes. Did he specifically say beforehand that you couldn't do that?
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:49 PM   #4
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Well I didnt use quotes.. Arent quotes only for actual quotes like ...

"Hey!", John yelled out.

As opposed to..

The grapefruit is an excellent source of glucose and vitamins (Science, 1990, pg 92). u wouldnt put this in quotes?
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:53 PM   #5
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Well I didnt use quotes.. Arent quotes only for actual quotes like ...

"Hey!", John yelled out.

As opposed to..

The grapefruit is an excellent source of glucose and vitamins (Science, 1990, pg 92). u wouldnt put this in quotes?





you F*cked up without the quotes... maybe you could try to explain that you didnt know you needed quotes as long as you cited it.

but you might have to deal with the grade you got.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:54 PM   #6
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Ok so I missed the quotes, but is it technically plagiarism? Seems more like a grammatical error to me. I lost 40% because of plaigarism.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:57 PM   #7
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Why would you cite something if its not in quotes? That's were you f*cked up.

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The grapefruit is an excellent source of glucose and vitamins (Science, 1990, pg 92). u wouldnt put this in quotes?
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I know is an ex. but I wouldn't put something as trivial as this in quotes. Just say something something like 'according to....'

That still doesn't explain this:

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"to cite correctly, you paraphrase, you dont quote word for word"

Talk to your professor about it.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:03 PM   #8
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http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/747/03/ No quotes needed when you're citing a long paragraph.

boom. i just emailed him. if he resists, im sending this.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:04 PM   #9
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are you in college or high school?

high school teachers will probably be more leniant, but some college professors are just ***** are this kind of stuff.

i honesly don't see the problem with what you did... so what, you left out parenthesis by accident. now teachers wanna punish you for it.

but, it's part of the rules and some teachers take that very serious. sucks.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:04 PM   #10
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I quoted a scientific paper, word for word, and cited it correctly. My instructor said this was plagarism, and docked me points , bigtime. He said "to cite correctly, you paraphrase, you dont quote word for word"

Makes no sense. As long as I cite (Kubrick, 1982, p. 32), this should be legit, even if it is word for word.

Whos with me?

I feel like he should've cut you some slack. You obviously had the right intention. Profs should dock you for content, not some BS semantics.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:05 PM   #11
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boom. i just emailed him. if he resists, im sending this.


hah you got him... hopefully he isn't a dick teachers that hates being proven wrong and then takes his anger out on you.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:15 PM   #12
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Idk, I really think the whole plagarism thing is a joke...People r way to sensitive about copying/pasting...
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:17 PM   #13
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Assuming this is 6th edition APA we are referring to, regardless of what Purdue says, that's plagiarism. For you to quote word for word without any quotations (even with Last name, Year, P.) you need above a certain amount of words to have it in block form. And that alone has a different formatting style such indentation, single spaced and the period being placed before the citation parenthesis.

You may think the professor is being a hard-ass, but citing wrong can warrant a loss in credentials. There are literally hundreds of books written about 6th edition APA, grab one off of amazon for a buck...

Also, some journals/formal entries do not accept quotations like your professor stated. For biology, chemistry etc., one must paraphrase external sources. However, sciences such as human communication allows quotations under the formatting i described above.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:22 PM   #14
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Idk, I really think the whole plagarism thing is a joke...People r way to sensitive about copying/pasting...


i kind of agree... as long as you cite where you got the information from and accidentally forget the apostrophes i dont get why it matters.


abviously you cant just copy and past anything into your report because the is clearly cheating.
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:25 PM   #15
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i kind of agree... as long as you cite where you got the information from and accidentally forget the apostrophes i dont get why it matters.


abviously you cant just copy and past anything into your report because the is clearly cheating.

It's not about cheating, it's about giving each author credit for the hours of work they've put in to advance the field.
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