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Old 08-22-2012, 02:20 PM   #691
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Opportunity is fine.

Give a guy no one knows an opportunity.

Lin was that guy, but Lin also barely got to play.

Tony Taylor might be that guy.

I don't see Flynn as that guy, he's had a chance to play and stunk it up doing so, but even if he does be that guy, congrats to him.....elsewhere.

The difference to me is, the team has no luxury of getting guys to revive careers.

James White says hi lol
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:12 PM   #692
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James White is about to be 30, he aint reviving no career.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:53 AM   #693
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Yeah, six months too late. We should have traded him for Dragic.
Trading Lin when his value was highest was thought of as a stupid idea around here- just like trading amare then was. This is the reason why if Felton and amare can get it going they need packaged together and sent out this season. If possible, after winning, the priority this season since an offseason trade didn't happen- Put Felton and amare in best possible position to succeed
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James White is about to be 30, he aint reviving no career.

I know...that's my point lol Flynn is 23. We're tryna revive a 30 yr old and a 35 yr old. lmao
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I know...that's my point lol Flynn is 23. We're tryna revive a 30 yr old and a 35 yr old. lmao

I want James White to make it so we can see him in the dunk contest.
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Old 08-23-2012, 06:56 PM   #696
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Opportunity is fine.

Give a guy no one knows an opportunity.

Lin was that guy, but Lin also barely got to play.

Tony Taylor might be that guy.

I don't see Flynn as that guy, he's had a chance to play and stunk it up doing so, but even if he does be that guy, congrats to him.....elsewhere.

The difference to me is, the team has no luxury of getting guys to revive careers.
Lucky for the Boston Celtics that Danny Ainge and Doc Rivers did not take your approach with Rajon Rondo. If you look at Johnny Flynn and Rondo's averages, or averages over 36 minutes; for each guy's first three seasons in the NBA they are similar players.
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Lucky for the Boston Celtics that Danny Ainge and Doc Rivers did not take your approach with Rajon Rondo. If you look at Johnny Flynn and Rondo's averages, or averages over 36 minutes; for each guy's first three seasons in the NBA they are similar players.
I hope you aren't trying to say Flynn would be as good as Rondo, sub the players?

Per 36 shouldn't be used in all cases, and this is definitely one of them.

Teams have given Flynn chances, and he bombed out everywhere.

Rondo had one thing going for him immediately coming into the league....defense, and that was even coming out of college

In his rookie season he was in the top 10 in steals in the entire league.

He made one of the defensive teams...in his 3rd season.

Per 36 does not apply in this case at all, and I;m actually disappointed you went this route.
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Fun Fact: If Sebastian Telfair didnt get in trouble off the court, Rondo would have been the player included in the trade for KG instead of Rondo. Doc Rivers comfirmed it after the trde happened.
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And of course that would have been a huge mistake.
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Fun Fact: If Sebastian Telfair didnt get in trouble off the court, Rondo would have been the player included in the trade for KG instead of Rondo. Doc Rivers comfirmed it after the trde happened.
Blame Minny for not trying harder.

But I think it would be safe to say that the Celtics wouldn't have the success they've had over the last few years if they had Telfair running the show.
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Blame Minny for not trying harder.

But I think it would be safe to say that the Celtics wouldn't have the success they've had over the last few years if they had Telfair running the show.

Maybe but I never thought Rondo was all that good. I always thought he was a product of not having to be guarded. But...to each is own. Put it like this, If Rondo was on this team, I don't think we'd be that much better.
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Maybe but I never thought Rondo was all that good. I always thought he was a product of not having to be guarded. But...to each is own. Put it like this, If Rondo was on this team, I don't think we'd be that much better.
Please explain the large.

If anything rondo has shown he has every single facet of being a total gamechanger.
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Please explain the large.

If anything rondo has shown he has every single facet of being a total gamechanger.

I just don't think he's that good. End of the day, when teams game planned for Boston, you can't afford to put Rond at the top of the list. You can't leave KG, Truth or Jesus Shuttlesworth to defend Rondo. So at the end of the day, I respect him for the gritty player he is, but talent wise, he isn't that good to me. Onthisteam, he wouldn't have that luxury. Chandler is a non threat offensively. Amare is up and down and who knows what we we'll get from the SG position this year. Therefore, I think he'll help defensively but offensively, we'd be about the sae or worse. Plus, I don't like PG's who can't hit heir freethrows or hit an open J. Just my opinion. I'm not saying he's a bum or anything. I just think he's a little overrated.
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I just don't think he's that good. End of the day, when teams game planned for Boston, you can't afford to put Rond at the top of the list. You can't leave KG, Truth or Jesus Shuttlesworth to defend Rondo. So at the end of the day, I respect him for the gritty player he is, but talent wise, he isn't that good to me. Onthisteam, he wouldn't have that luxury. Chandler is a non threat offensively. Amare is up and down and who knows what we we'll get from the SG position this year. Therefore, I think he'll help defensively but offensively, we'd be about the sae or worse. Plus, I don't like PG's who can't hit heir freethrows or hit an open J. Just my opinion. I'm not saying he's a bum or anything. I just think he's a little overrated.
If anything I would think the fact that teams didn't double off of Rondo is a testament to how good they feel he is.

As far as his offense goes, the guy gets the points when they are needed, and he does so much more than that to impact a game.

We've seen it with our own eyes in the playoffs.
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If we had CP3 or rondo we would be #2 seed in the east
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