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Old 07-06-2014, 12:44 PM   #991
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Default Re: Trades,Free Agency, Draft Thread

The Amare trade.

What's the rule 60 days from the chandler/Calderon trade before Larkin or dalembert can be traded w Amare?


How do you think teams rank shumpert, Hardaway, Larkin, and early as far as trade value?
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Old 07-06-2014, 05:52 PM   #992
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The Amare trade.

What's the rule 60 days from the chandler/Calderon trade before Larkin or dalembert can be traded w Amare?


How do you think teams rank shumpert, Hardaway, Larkin, and early as far as trade value?
I don't want to trade away the youth. Not when we're implementing a system. To answer your question, I think teams would under-rate all 3 players unless they had THEM to trade. They all have upside we haven't seen yet. I feel Shump especially has something to show. He's been working out like a dog and I'm sure he's glad Woodson is out of the picture.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:20 AM   #993
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Default Re: Trades,Free Agency, Draft Thread

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The Amare trade.

What's the rule 60 days from the chandler/Calderon trade before Larkin or dalembert can be traded w Amare?


How do you think teams rank shumpert, Hardaway, Larkin, and early as far as trade value?
Hardaway he has upside willing on defense and the offensive game can come around more.

Shump defensive specialist. A younger Thabo or Tony Allen fella.

Larkin career back up at best too small and no wingspan the future isnt too bright for this kid.
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Old 07-07-2014, 01:13 PM   #994
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Default Re: Trades,Free Agency, Draft Thread

SAS said there is a deal on the table where the Knicks can get Thad or some other player for Stat and Iman....

Edit: SAS just clarified he is saying its possible according to his SAUCES they will possibly do it.

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SAS said there is a deal on the table where the Knicks can get Thad or some other player for Stat and Iman....

Edit: SAS just clarified he is saying its possible according to his SAUCES they will possibly do it.
That one doesn't make a lot of sense for Philly to turn Thad into a big expired that they'll just let expire. But for the sake of fun


Young would make the team much more athletic and would prob love to be on a team that wants to win, but IMO his value is inflated right now from being the best player on a bad team. The Knicks would need him to be a role player so you wouldn't need 18 a game from him.


I think josh smith or Larry sanders would be better fits than Thad but at bigger price tags.


If wroten is involved? That would be great, doubt they'd want Larkin
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That one doesn't make a lot of sense for Philly to turn Thad into a big expired that they'll just let expire. But for the sake of fun


Young would make the team much more athletic and would prob love to be on a team that wants to win, but IMO his value is inflated right now from being the best player on a bad team. The Knicks would need him to be a role player so you wouldn't need 18 a game from him.


I think josh smith or Larry sanders would be better fits than Thad but at bigger price tags.


If wroten is involved? That would be great, doubt they'd want Larkin
The Knicks want money for this summer. I dont know if Zen tried this. It wasnt something i thought was possible until SAS mentioned it.
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At least the Knicks can't get burned in free agency by the dream of getting Lebrun. If amare gets traded no big deal, but the idea of trading him for just capspace is too much to hope for IMO.


Seeing teams like cle make moves just to hope for Lebrun is crazy. I just hope the Knicks don't trade hardaway, shumpert, bargnani, and Amare just to end up w pau gasol. I could see Lebrun being ok w trying to squash this uprising of the Knicks if he knows he is returning to Miami or Cleveland


Though I believe that if there were capspace the Knicks would be the heavy favorites right now to get Lebrun- I don't think it's possible and shouldn't be chased down. A trade for Kevin love is more possible than slashing 35-40 million without anything in return to allow max cap space now.
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Default Re: Trades,Free Agency, Draft Thread

I dont want the cap space this year its too late. I dont think Love is a realistic option.

I still believe there is a move or 2 that may occur if Melo comes back. Just like the Chandler deal Melo knows what it is already. My concern is there is no deal or its still not enough to convince Melo to come back.

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I dont want the cap space this year its too late. I dont think Love is a realistic option.

I still believe there is a move or 2 that may occur if Melo comes back. Just like the Chandler deal Melo knows what it is already. My concern is there is no deal or its still not enough to convince Melo to come back.

A deal would likely have to include any or all of Larkin, Ellington, thanasis, or dalembert so to do that it was 60 days right. So looking at another 40 some days to wait for another deal.


Who is running the pistons? My reasoning for thinking it could be josh smith is they have a new gm that prob wants to put his own mark on things. You don't hear anything about teams going after Greg Monroe so they must think he will be matched. It's the same as the bucks=they might want to start over.


Bucks on the other hand have the same GM and no longer have a mandate to try to make the playoffs every year. Now they supposedly are focused on building an elite team down the road. And that gm had a lot of interest in hard away and Larkin


Don't like those 2 options? Throw out another.
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Default Re: Trades,Free Agency, Draft Thread

The answer isnt taking on bad contracts. Stan Van Gundy is running the Pistons.

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A deal would likely have to include any or all of Larkin, Ellington, thanasis, or dalembert so to do that it was 60 days right. So looking at another 40 some days to wait for another deal.


Who is running the pistons? My reasoning for thinking it could be josh smith is they have a new gm that prob wants to put his own mark on things. You don't hear anything about teams going after Greg Monroe so they must think he will be matched. It's the same as the bucks=they might want to start over.


Bucks on the other hand have the same GM and no longer have a mandate to try to make the playoffs every year. Now they supposedly are focused on building an elite team down the road. And that gm had a lot of interest in hard away and Larkin


Don't like those 2 options? Throw out another.
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The answer isnt taking on bad contracts. Stan Van Gundy is running the Pistons.
That's right. Svg.


No the answer is finding a couple good bigs. I can never figure out why anybody would care how much they are "overpaid". If they are over the cap anyway I say spend as much of dolans money as possible.


I think a lot of the guys that are considered "overpaid" are more just over their head in the role they are supposed to fill. Is Larry sanders over his head as a teams best player- yes. Would he be over his head being a defender/rebounder in a lineup filled w scorers- I say no and he might be elite enough at that to be worth big money.


OJ is overpaid. Or is he just over his head supposed to be the top offensive option for someone. As a shooter off the bench? Same w illyasova, is he a top couple option type player or is he a guy that skilled enough that he could do some damage against bench players or could fit in when he's on the court as a 4th-5th option type.


OJ could play the role that hard away is supposed to.

Zaza could play the role dalembert is supposed to.

Amare can't do what sanders can do. Or what illyaspva can
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what do yall think of melo wade gasol pairings in ny?

would wade agree to come up here or stay (if lebron/bosh left) in miami and waste what little he has left?

i can def see gasol coming if we could transform bargnani and amare into free space to get wade

though chances of that happening are unlikely, it does sound good to me

i think wade can still perform at a high enough level to compete in spite of lebron ditching him
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what do yall think of melo wade gasol pairings in ny?

would wade agree to come up here or stay (if lebron/bosh left) in miami and waste what little he has left?

i can def see gasol coming if we could transform bargnani and amare into free space to get wade

though chances of that happening are unlikely, it does sound good to me

i think wade can still perform at a high enough level to compete in spite of lebron ditching him
That would impossible. And the assets like prospects and picks you'd have to add to amare to get a team to give no return in salary for.


How could you think you should be "banning" from discussing the Knicks when the only personal idea I've ever seen from you is dumber n'shit and not possible?
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So Melo is staying, apparently. Props to him
Now on to some serious moves, Phil.
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So Melo is staying, apparently. Props to him
Now on to some serious moves, Phil.
I think Phil is doing a good job so far and I expect him to turn around this franchise.

Finally some hope for us Knicks fans.
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