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Old 05-09-2012, 04:15 PM   #1
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I mean cmon, these guys are supossedly getting most of the open looks...
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Default Re: Hard and irrefutable stats. Lakers big 3 Cast for the season and playoffs:

Dude take a math lesson. You can look at each individuals percentages. That's fine. But you can't just average percentages like that to get the team average.
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Dude take a math lesson. You can look at each individuals percentages. That's fine. But you can't just average percentages like that to get the team average.

I just did.


and given the evidence,what u say is irrelevant for my point.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:31 PM   #6
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Default Re: Hard and irrefutable stats. Lakers big 3 Cast for the season and playoffs:

Pretty much Kobe percentage for the year....
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Pretty much Kobe percentage for the year....

only kobe gets to shoot 10x times more contested shots, and is rarely wide open, also he attempts way more fg's, and one could easily assume these scrubs percntages would drop to something like 5% should they be on kobes situation.

what you did is a horrid simplistic analysis.
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Lakers are just an awful shooting team outside of kobe, thats the whole point. If we dont have Bynum clicking on the inside, the teams offensive arsenal is so limited its disturbing. You can also drop Browns lack of offensive plays into the mix and what you got is a recipe for disaster (disaster being a 2nd round exit given the Lakers pure TALENT on 3 out of 10 positions in the rotation)
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Default Re: Hard and irrefutable stats. Lakers big 3 Cast for the season and playoffs:

Lakers big 3 are earning a combined 65m for the next year which is over the salary cap. So they are supposed to fill out the roster by signing others for a combined 3 or 5 million!

Unless some good role players are willing to take paycut, Lakers have no other choice than to fill out the roster with scrubs
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Lakers big 3 are earning a combined 65m for the next year which is over the salary cap. So they are supposed to fill out the roster by signing others for a combined 3 or 5 million!

Unless some good role players are willing to take paycut, Lakers have no other choice than to fill out the roster with scrubs

I agree. Only I think there are scrubs that can drain open jumpers out there.
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Dude take a math lesson. You can look at each individuals percentages. That's fine. But you can't just average percentages like that to get the team average.

What in God's earth are you talking about? What he did was fine. He's not talking about team averages...
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:47 PM   #12
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Default Re: Hard and irrefutable stats. Lakers big 3 Cast for the season and playoffs:

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I just did.


and given the evidence,what u say is irrelevant for my point.

Well you just enabled me to teach you a lesson on the internet.

FG%=sum(FGM)/sum(FGA)

so, TeamFG%=sum(teamFGM)/sum(teamFGA).

sum(teamFGM)=FGM by Blake + FGM by Barnes + FGM by Metta + ...

sum(teamFGA)=FGA by Blake + FGA by Barnes + FGA by Metta + ...

so, TeamFG%=(FGM by Blake + FGM by Barnes + FGM by Metta + ...)/(FGA by Blake + FGA by Barnes + FGA by Metta ...)

The above is the formula that you must use. The significance here lies in that the overall percentage is skewed toward the percentage of the player who takes more shots. So averaging percentages in a sense is taking the weighted averages. Thus, in actuality the overall percentage that you have found would more reflect Metta's shooting percentage than Ebanks's because Metta has many more attempts. What you have done is assume that all players take the same amount of shots.

Do you get it now?

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Default Re: Hard and irrefutable stats. Lakers big 3 Cast for the season and playoffs:

Sign Andre Miller in the off season, as I'm sure Sessions will get a big contract thrown at him by somebody. Miller doesn't want to be a backup, even at this point in his career. It gets LA a little older (again) at the PG spot but it also gives them the defense (something Sessions lacks) and offensive productivity they need.

Amnesty Steve Blake. Seems stupid to blow their amnesty on $8 million, but they need to come up with the cash somehow. Sign Antawn Jamison in the off season... dude can play multiple possessions and is a starting quality scorer. Sort of allergic to defense, but whatever.

Bring back Farmar and sign him for peanuts as a backup PG.

Try and trade McRoberts for a shooter. Lakers could be relevant again with two or three relatively small alterations like this.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:50 PM   #14
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Well you just enabled me to teach you a lesson on the internet.

FG%=sum(FGM)/sum(FGA)

so, TeamFG%=sum(teamFGM)/sum(teamFGA).

sum(teamFGM)=FGM by Blake + FGM by Barnes + FGM by Metta + ...

sum(teamFGA)=FGA by Blake + FGA by Barnes + FGA by Metta + ...

so, TeamFG%=(FGM by Blake + FGM by Barnes + FGM by Metta + ...)/((FGA by Blake + FGA by Barnes + FGA by Metta ...)

The above is the formula that you must use. The significance here lies in that the overall percentage is skewed toward the percentage of the player who takes more shots. So averaging percentages in a sense is taking the weighted averages. Thus, in actuality the overall percentage that you have found would more reflect Metta's shooting percentage than Ebanks's because Metta has many more attempts. What you have done is assume that all players take the same amount of shots.

Do you get it now?

dude, if one of those players would be shooting WAY more than the others and have a way different % then it would be missleading, but its not the case here. So it just took me less time and gets a representative % of the situation.

thanks for the math lesson but I'll pass. I keep it simple and watch alot of bball, I recommend it.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:52 PM   #15
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I agree. Only I think there are scrubs that can drain open jumpers out there.

Of course there are. Jason Kapono, Troy Murphy are scrubs that can drain open Js..
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