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Old 05-10-2012, 12:38 PM   #16
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He's a good player and qualifies for underrated. Just think you go overboard when you try to prove that point by saying he's better than Ngata, Suh. Thats where the disagreement comes from.
IMO he is the best 3-4 DE/DT in the NFL...

I actually think Suh is overrated, but I shouldn't have compared him I guess beause he is a pure DT. I would still take Campbell over Suh in a heartbeat, esp with the personality issues in there.

Ngata and Smith are better comparisons


Dallas played both Arizona and the 9ers last year...Calais completely wrecked shit (as he did with every team he faced). I went into that game wanting to focus on Peterson...but Campbell quickly turned into my focal point.

Justin Smith was amazing last year but he is 32 now...Campbell is a no brainer over him right now I think

Ngata has the best arguement...still just 28, oversized versatile freak...he has never had 6 sacks in his career though...Campbell had 8 last year, 6 before that, and 7 before that...with just as many tackles

stats might not tell the whole story, but Campbell gets more than Ngata



I don't see how it isn't at least argueable that Campbell is the best 3-4 DE/DT in the NFL...that isn't going overboard at all.

you saying that it is going overboard shows how underrated this guy is IMO
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He is a fantastic player, but I'd still want Ngata on my team, and if Smith stays at the same level, I'd want him too.

I'd also take Vince over him.

Calais' age and the others age has nothing to do with who the best is. Why you're even bringing that up, who knows.
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He is a fantastic player, but I'd still want Ngata on my team, and if Smith stays at the same level, I'd want him too.

I'd also take Vince over him.

Calais' age and the others age has nothing to do with who the best is. Why you're even bringing that up, who knows.
because Justin Smith is old and very likely on the down side of his career

why you don't think age plays into preformance?, who knows

no brainer


who would you rather have Ray Lewis or Pat Willis?...I bet age is a factor in your choice, at least it should if you had common sense
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and Wilfork is a big fat NT
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we'll see who has the best year...I feel very confident that Campbell will do the same or better this year at age 25, should be a prime year for him...and exceed everyone else that is comparable

If he has another 8 sack year it will be impossible for fans/media to avoid it again.


it's just that he is on a bad team that gets little attention
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I doubt there's a better DLineman than Ngata.
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:51 PM   #22
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I don't have a prob with anyone that says Ngata is the best in the NFL...(3-4 scheme that is or give me Allen)

but I don't see how anyone could make a legit arguement for Ngata over Campbell and not acknowledge that Campbell could be seen as better.
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IMO he is the best 3-4 DE/DT in the NFL...

I actually think Suh is overrated, but I shouldn't have compared him I guess beause he is a pure DT. I would still take Campbell over Suh in a heartbeat, esp with the personality issues in there.

Ngata and Smith are better comparisons


Dallas played both Arizona and the 9ers last year...Calais completely wrecked shit (as he did with every team he faced). I went into that game wanting to focus on Peterson...but Campbell quickly turned into my focal point.

Justin Smith was amazing last year but he is 32 now...Campbell is a no brainer over him right now I think

Ngata has the best arguement...still just 28, oversized versatile freak...he has never had 6 sacks in his career though...Campbell had 8 last year, 6 before that, and 7 before that...with just as many tackles

stats might not tell the whole story, but Campbell gets more than Ngata



I don't see how it isn't at least argueable that Campbell is the best 3-4 DE/DT in the NFL...that isn't going overboard at all.

you saying that it is going overboard shows how underrated this guy is IMO

First Suh is overrated? Funny, but I know where that crap stems from. Moving on. Second you're sitting there tossing around stats in the Campbell/Ngata comparison. My issue with that? When did you become a person who has watched Campbell enough to defend these stats you toss around? Yesterday? I've literally seen you talk up Ngata on here. I've never seen you mention Campbell until yesterday. So to say you're not going overboard is silly to me. Its like you discovered this guy and now want to go around arguing on his behalf. Hilarious to me. And no I dont mean you have no clue who this player is. But he's been in the league for 4 seasons and through all the football talk here? I've never seen you toss his name out there. We've had DPOY arguments. We had best DE and DT arguments. Where was his name from your fingertips? I dont get it.
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because Justin Smith is old and very likely on the down side of his career

why you don't think age plays into preformance?, who knows

no brainer


who would you rather have Ray Lewis or Pat Willis?...I bet age is a factor in your choice, at least it should if you had common sense

I'd rather have Willis because he's better right now. Thus he's the best of the two, regardless of age. If Ray Lewis was better, he'd be the best, until he wasn't. I honestly don't know how you don't comprehend that.

It's not "will be the best 3/4 defensive end," you said "is" the best.
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and Wilfork is a big fat NT



He plays all over the defensive line.
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If you were to bump the game thread Dallas vs Arizona week it is full of me hyping Campbell, but like I said in the OP this just sprung from my current fantasy draft...Campbell counts as a DT and he is in a tier all by himself at the top.

I know stats aren't everything, but Calais dominates them every year...no reason to think it will stop either.



And Wilfork is def a tackle first...I don't remember him ever playing DE...he would be weird at DE...new England is a 4-3, you want a rusher at DE not wilfork. ( Gobb, talk about his asshole now)
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In the first half against Baltimore, the Patriots held Rice to just 21 yards on 10 carries. His longest run was a 7-yard gain. The Ravens came out throwing in the second half, and New England played more four-man fronts with nickel and dime coverages. Still, the Patriots mixed in plenty of three-man fronts --using Mark Anderson and Rob Ninkovich as their speed rushers -- and moved Vince Wilfork all over the line.

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Why do you talk about things and pass them off as facts when you really don't know for sure? Isn't this the definition of "talking out of your ass?"
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I didn't pass it off as fact I just said I don't remember him playing DE.

I honestly very surprised they play him there even one snap...he seems like the opposite buildf of what you would want there.
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um...Wilfork IS a big fat NT

fact lol
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