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Old 05-16-2012, 11:55 AM   #121
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Just like what wade accomplished without an elite big. First round exit.
Multiple lotto = first round exit?

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Just like what wade accomplished without an elite big. First round exit.

Who was the elite big man in Wade's rookie year?
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Lets not pretend like bosh was a superstar back then. I think raptors were 4th during his last yr there before he got injured. I dont know about the heat at that time. And its the raptors where player doesnt like playing.
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Lets not pretend like bosh was a superstar back then. I think raptors were 4th during his last yr there before he got injured. I dont know about the heat at that time. And its the raptors where player doesnt like playing.
That's not the point, and don't dodge it either.

Bosh was the franchise player there, and the offense totally went through him, and he has multiple lottos to show for it.

He is no different now, than he was then.

How do you not know about the Heat, then make mention of their first round exits with Wade?

Wade only went lotto the year he was injured.

When Wade played, the team won and made the playoffs.

As a matter of fact, he made the ECF in his second season.

Bosh....5 out of his 7 seasons were lotto.
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That's not the point, and don't dodge it either.

Bosh was the franchise player there, and the offense totally went through him, and he has multiple lottos to show for it.

He is no different now, than he was then.

How do you not know about the Heat, then make mention of their first round exits with Wade?

Wade only went lotto the year he was injured.

When Wade played, the team won and made the playoffs.

As a matter of fact, he made the ECF in his second season.

Bosh....5 out of his 7 seasons were lotto.

at the end of the day, heat won only 47 max with only wade thats the same as bosh. What can bosh do, he wasnt gifted with shaq in his early years.
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at the end of the day, heat won only 47 max with only wade thats the same as bosh. What can bosh do, he wasnt gifted with shaq in his early years.
06 Shaq?
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hes an all star big. And hes the star of that team at that time
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they got exposed again. LOL How bad is this knicks team really if indiana can just demolish them with ease.
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hes an all star big. And hes the star of that team at that time

He's never been an allstar. I LOVE Odom's game and I'm 100% sure I've been watching him longer than you have. That said, he's never been elite.

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they got exposed again. LOL How bad is this knicks team really if indiana can just demolish them with ease.

See, comments like this is where you contradict yourself.

You said yourself Bosh was "elite". Bosh didn't play last night, so shouldn't that have effected Miami significantly? Furthermore, Bosh played in the 1st round vs the Knicks.

Therefore, we did not play the same Miami team that the Pacers are playing. When Bosh played, Indiana lost. Add to that, the Pacers don't have a host of injuries.

Tell me what team can beat the Heat losing their starting point guard, their best perimeter defender, their backup point guard, their 2nd best player and power forward for a game, AND have their center suffering from the flu.

Comparing the two situations is like apples to oranges. It only proves you're either a biased hater masquerading as a Knicks fan or you simply don't know much about the game of basketball. Given your past comments, I'm going to go ahead and assume the latter.

BTW, we beat Indiana during the regular season 2 out of 3 times including back to back games.
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He's never been an allstar. I LOVE Odom's game and I'm 100% sure I've been watching him longer than you have. That said, he's never been elite.



See, comments like this is where you contradict yourself.

You said yourself Bosh was "elite". Bosh didn't play last night, so shouldn't that have effected Miami significantly? Furthermore, Bosh played in the 1st round vs the Knicks.

Therefore, we did not play the same Miami team that the Pacers are playing. When Bosh played, Indiana lost. Add to that, the Pacers don't have a host of injuries.

Tell me what team can beat the Heat losing their starting point guard, their best perimeter defender, their backup point guard, their 2nd best player and power forward for a game, AND have their center suffering from the flu.

Comparing the two situations is like apples to oranges. It only proves you're either a biased hater masquerading as a Knicks fan or you simply don't know much about the game of basketball. Given your past comments, I'm going to go ahead and assume the latter.

BTW, we beat Indiana during the regular season 2 out of 3 times including back to back games.

Odom really isnt elite but they arent contenders too. Its easy btw to get out of the 1st round in the east than in the west.

And they got destroyed by pacers last game coz they dont have bosh so where am I contradicting. LOL They won with bosh but lost by ****ing 20 points without him. Man really please stop.

And knicks could beat the heat if only we have a pg who knows how to use our frontcourt rather than a melo who takes away touches from them. The reason we lost is we play like them which is iso. And worse is that our iso player is not even great all around. Thats why heat isnt successful as boston because they dont play as a team. We already have a coach who emphasizes ball movement but instead we rid of him despite being successful without melo. And he has won more than melo by going to the conference finals twice and finals once to a constant first rounder. How stupid the FO can be. Coaches have more impact than players. The only reason why players are prioritized coz its harder to get them.

We beat indiana coz thats the time we played team ball and amare was our best player which is our big man.
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they got exposed again. LOL How bad is this knicks team really if indiana can just demolish them with ease.
It's called matchups brah, and health.

We smashed Indy this season, so what does that mean?

BTW, we won both games because of Lin controlling the game, and knowing when to take over.
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Lin had more points and almost more rebounds than Amare in both our wins against Indy.
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