Re: 2012-2013 English Premier League Thread (La Liga, Serie A, etc.)
SAF criticizes the linesman-FA gives him 4 days and asks him what he thinks about him.
Sam Allardyce does the same thing and gets an instant fine.
Bringing up Drogba's offside goal in 2010 while ignoring the fact that in the same game Macheda blatantly handed the ball before scoring his goal, which shouldn't have been allowed. The way English football panders to this red nosed piece of shit is unfathomable.
Re: 2012-2013 English Premier League Thread (La Liga, Serie A, etc.)
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Originally Posted by knickballer
What? You don't know squat about US soccer to be frank. US isn't a bad team and they do get undervalued since they aren't a European/South American team. We do have talent, players like Dempsey, Howard, Bradley, Fabian Johnson, Donovan, etc, are talented players(not great) but good players that are considered "B" talent.
You're being dumb if you think Ronaldo and Messi won't make the US team contenders lol.. In a 4-3-3 that includes Ronaldo, Messi and Dempsey would be the deadliest attacking combo in the world so I'll just stop at that.
US biggest need atm is CB btw
You have got to be kidding. Portugal themselves aren't even contenders, and they have better players than USA throughout the lineup.
Re: 2012-2013 English Premier League Thread (La Liga, Serie A, etc.)
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Originally Posted by LJJ
You have got to be kidding. Portugal themselves aren't even contenders, and they have better players than USA throughout the lineup.
Portugal has:
Weaker defense.
Weaker keeper-by far.
Shittier organization.
Worst strikers.
Less determination.
Less leadership-basically no leadership
Midfields are equal, no Moutinho is not better than Bradley XD. Portugal has Nani , USA has Dempsey and his 23 goals in England last year. If Dempsey was Eastern European or Spanish or Dutch his reputation would be huge. Not to mention Captain Clutch Landon Donovan.
Ronaldo and Contrao are the only players clearly better than a corresponding American at his position.
Last edited by Nick Young : 01-21-2013 at 05:41 PM.
Re: 2012-2013 English Premier League Thread (La Liga, Serie A, etc.)
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Originally Posted by knickballer
What? You don't know squat about US soccer to be frank. US isn't a bad team and they do get undervalued since they aren't a European/South American team. We do have talent, players like Dempsey, Howard, Bradley, Fabian Johnson, Donovan, etc, are talented players(not great) but good players that are considered "B" talent.
US biggest need atm is CB btw
CB is definitely the biggest weakness on the team. Bocanegra is stuck for a sinking Racing squad and is way past his prime and Clarence Goodson has been awful the last few times he's been in the squad. I'm comfortable with Geoff Cameron in the back as he's been one of Stoke's best players this year. I think Omar Gonzalez is the best guy to pair with him for the time being.
Fabian Johnson is a hell of a player; he's been awesome almost every time he's suited up for the national team and he's really versatile (can play LB, RB, RM, and LM). I think he's one of the better LBs in the Bundesliga. Cherundolo just got injured so we'll probably have to play Timmy Chandler from Nuremberg who might be a better player at this point anyway.
I don't think Landon Donovan will be available and Klinsmann seems to prefer Herculez Gomez to Jozy Altidore.
The lineup for the Honduras game I hope to see is:
Howard
Chandler - Cameron - Gonzalez - Johnson
Bradley - Jones
Gatt - Zusi - Dempsey
Altidore
Re: 2012-2013 English Premier League Thread (La Liga, Serie A, etc.)
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Originally Posted by LJJ
You have got to be kidding. Portugal themselves aren't even contenders, and they have better players than USA throughout the lineup.
Although Portugal is struggling in qualifiers I think it's perfectly reasonable to consider Portugal as contenders. They were a close penalty shootout loss to Spain away from the finals of the Euro championships.. That's not a contender? Get real
Messi and Ronaldo are the two best players in the world and possibly both the best ever.. Keep thinking that Messi and Ronaldo won't make the US contenders
Re: 2012-2013 English Premier League Thread (La Liga, Serie A, etc.)
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Originally Posted by Lebowsky
Not only better, but much better at every position (except for GK), to the point it's not even close.
Pepe and Bruno Alves are about 5 levels above any CB pairing the US has.
At striker I'd say Altidore is pretty close to Helder Postiga. Bradley and Jermaine Jones aren't far off from Miereles and Veloso either although I've only seen Veloso for the NT. It's obvious Portugal is much better overall though so I don't why the comparison is being made.
The US doesn't have top class talent but we usually perform well in big tournaments and have a solid record against European teams. Last year the national team went 9-2-3 with road wins against Italy and Mexico and draw in Russia.
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Originally Posted by Grinder
Pepe and Bruno Alves are about 5 levels above any CB pairing the US has.
At striker I'd say Altidore is pretty close to Helder Postiga. Bradley and Jermaine Jones aren't far off from Miereles and Veloso either although I've only seen Veloso for the NT. It's obvious Portugal is much better overall though so I don't why the comparison is being made.
The US doesn't have top class talent but we usually perform well in big tournaments and have a solid record against European teams. Last year the national team went 9-2-3 with road wins against Italy and Mexico and draw in Russia.
That, I totally agree with. Your national team has a mental strength and determination that usually leads them to perform above expectations. That's something the Portuguese, as skilled as they are, could learn something from.
I don't agree with your comment on Postiga, though. He's not the most prolific scorer, but he's got good technique, can hold the ball for his teammates and generates quite a lot of offensive play (at least for Zaragoza, where he is asked to. He doesn't need to do that in Portugal). As good a season Altidore may be having in the Netherlands, he's not half the player Postiga is. Altidore is one of the worst strikers I've ever seen play in Spain (I admittedly haven't seen him this year).
Re: 2012-2013 English Premier League Thread (La Liga, Serie A, etc.)
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Originally Posted by knickballer
What? You don't know squat about US soccer to be frank. US isn't a bad team and they do get undervalued since they aren't a European/South American team. We do have talent, players like Dempsey, Howard, Bradley, Fabian Johnson, Donovan, etc, are talented players(not great) but good players that are considered "B" talent.
You're being dumb if you think Ronaldo and Messi won't make the US team contenders lol.. In a 4-3-3 that includes Ronaldo, Messi and Dempsey would be the deadliest attacking combo in the world so I'll just stop at that.
US biggest need atm is CB btw
Well you just said it yourself, what good would it be a deadly attacking trio when the biggest need is a CB... look at Argentina for example or Portugal... they are not contenders as of right now... so you think USA will be becuase of two strikers?
like i said only xavi and iniesta because of their passing ability and holding the ball which would not let the opponent come close to the ordinary defense.
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