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Old 02-16-2013, 12:11 PM   #226
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I also like that "aha" moment where a person says something you have never heard before; Myth, Iamgine, MillerTime and Nanners have done it a couple of times, but for the most part, they haven't done it enough for me to consider them full blown intelligent, but the fact they are the few who did it for me gives me a level of respect for them although I might not agree with them and actually think Myth is a douche and Iamgine is a closet homosexual.

lol, should I feel honored or offended?

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Old 02-16-2013, 12:16 PM   #227
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Just found a way to reenact nzt48.

Gonna outwit done folks to get to top 10 fa sho
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:20 PM   #228
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Intelligence is not the definition of an "aha" moment. Its making a mark on society. Being more than just a regular man.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:40 PM   #229
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Curiosity is frowned upon amongst students today; most students think being really smart is in memorizing a bunch of facts and knowing a lot of things, but TRUE EVOLUTION OF KNOWLEDGE is really in denying what is consider to be "objective" and figuring something better and newer.
You aren't likely to have any great new insight, if you don't learn, and understand what your predecessors discovered. If you can do that, you are really smart, very few people get that far. If you replace the word "objective" with "common sense", or "conventional wisdom" I'd probably agree with you. Nothing of utility can come from denying the objective.

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You said every thing right until here.
No its not as easy as doing a quick google search.
If it is, why don't you go build a nuclear bomb or go perform brain surgery or engineer a phone or design a innovative software.

Thats what I taught. There are people who devote their entire lives learning and engineering things you take for granted today. These are the real smart people. The nuclear physicists, the neuro surgeons, the computer engineers, and the computer scientists.

These people devoted their lives to something more than just the norm.
They didn't do a google search. You can't build a plane by doing a google search. You have to devote yourself to it.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:57 PM   #230
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Yeah I hardly ever see you on the OT boards....

But you are one of the best/smartest NBA Posters here...always look forward to reading yo BBALL posts....
of course u do cuz ure an idiot.


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shaqattack pollutes the nba forum with narcissim. he cant help himself from all those flavorless 10 paragraph posts cuz insecure losers like phoenixglove fawn over him. the massive length of his posts create the illusion that he actually knows wtf hes talking about. some guy rambling on for 3 pages bout his personal top 10 rankings in 2008 isnt smart. he likes the traffic from impressionables like alpha. rainierbeachphagg0t ran the same game cept he hit on religion and virtue. heroinattack aint got that platform.
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Old 02-16-2013, 04:06 PM   #231
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You said every thing right until here.
No its not as easy as doing a quick google search.
If it is, why don't you go build a nuclear bomb or go perform brain surgery or engineer a phone or design a innovative software.

Thats what I taught. There are people who devote their entire lives learning and engineering things you take for granted today. These are the real smart people. The nuclear physicists, the neuro surgeons, the computer engineers, and the computer scientists.

Those are just a few, Go study your history. 95% of the technology we have today were developed by "engineers". People who spent their entire life researching.

You don't just wake up one day and make history. Thousands of engineer contributed to the advancement of technology we have today and the standard of living. Whether you look at technology, healthcare, lifestyle, space, etc.

These people devoted their lives to something more than just the norm.
They didn't do a google search. You can't build a plane by doing a google search. You have to devote yourself to it.

That's why the list in the OP is a complete joke.

Let me elaborate my position:

I am merely defining my idea of intelligence in an ISH forum. You're talking about some high level college master's while some of these guys would be lucky to get a GED, so if you have accomplish all that, then more kudos to you.

I am directly attacking guys like KevNYC who recites news articles verbatim as his own type of argument. I don't see anything special about this because a quick google search can find any counter argument to anything said in this discussion forum. I do agree with you that if someone is well versed in a subject, they can intepret it in their own words and add something new (the aha moment) with their own angle. That to me is intelligence: it shows the person as someone who has thought deeply enough and is educated enough to formulate a seminal idea rather than regurgitate (at best) what has already been said or (at worst) simply link to a news article using someone else's word.
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Old 02-16-2013, 04:17 PM   #232
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You aren't likely to have any great new insight, if you don't learn, and understand what your predecessors discovered. If you can do that, you are really smart, very few people get that far. If you replace the word "objective" with "common sense", or "conventional wisdom" I'd probably agree with you. Nothing of utility can come from denying the objective.


Objectivity has been misused and manipulated to define knowledge as only restricted to certain sectors within the educational system. For example, history in school is being taught as objective, but it is far from that, in fact, I would argue that it is the most subjective topic being taught in the classrooms today since it does not teach from a universal perspective that encompasses all cultures (including that of religion), but a very small segment of American history. Even the media has been coined as "objective" when half of the population already knows it can be full of sh*t sometimes, but the idea has been so ingrained in our minds most people, although they willingly admit what is being presented isn't always true, will, out of habit, accept what is being reported as something not to be questioned. In fact, they have such a disdain for those who question the media, they would attack them with fervor and label them as "conspiracy nuts." It is an act of indoctrination and the root cause is an obssession to the term objectivity.

I agree with you that expounding the findings of predeccessors is essential in the progression of knowledge, but it is the act of denying it is what starts the "curiosity" mode and leads to true learning. If you simply accept everything you learn in school and are being taught not to question but merely to regurgitate it on a test, you are not partaking in the act of true learning set out by Socrates when he utter his famous line, "The only thing I know is that I know nothing." It is in the thought of not knowing is what triggers the act of questioning, but I do agree with you must be well versed in the subject matter before you start questioning.

Even the term "fact" is a deceptive misuse of a term to hamper creativity (which seems to be a goal of the educational system) because the idea a truth is never changing and completely objective is a delusional way of seeing reality: all ideas will change. Newer ideas will come along and replace the old ideas of today. This process will go on forever. So nothing can ever be an axiom or a fact because there are only "temporary" truths.

Education is not the only one guilty of this, Religion does this as well with their all knowing God.

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Old 02-16-2013, 07:05 PM   #233
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all of which reminds me of figan, the erstwhile leader of a tribe of chimps studied by jane goodall in mogombe, tanzania.

figan was a medium-sized male with no particular leadership prospects until one day he came across a discarded oil can. after a little experimentation with his new toy, he quickly discovered that banging it along the ground and adding in his own shrieks greatly bewildered and alarmed the then-leader of the tribe, a large, powerful chimp in his own right.

figan pressed the advantage, made maximum use of his trusty can, and eventually the improbable and miraculous occurred-- the leader backed down and figan became the new alpha male, a position which afforded him prime access to most available wombs in the area. and what a sweet, sweet ride that was.

if figan was around today, i think he would use a wall of text, not a discarded oil can.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:16 PM   #234
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of course u do cuz ure an idiot.


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shaqattack pollutes the nba forum with narcissim. he cant help himself from all those flavorless 10 paragraph posts cuz insecure losers like phoenixglove fawn over him. the massive length of his posts create the illusion that he actually knows wtf hes talking about. some guy rambling on for 3 pages bout his personal top 10 rankings in 2008 isnt smart. he likes the traffic from impressionables like alpha. rainierbeachphagg0t ran the same game cept he hit on religion and virtue. heroinattack aint got that platform.

Herb Stempel with internet access and memory techniques Would make Ken Jennings look like a fukkin autistic retard.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:19 PM   #235
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i think that most 'intelligent' people (and yes, the term is endlessly debatable) have little use for calling particular attention to their own intelligence. few times does it offer any real benefit, and the pitfalls are many.

the point of having some kind of talent or intelligence is to EXERCISE it effectively in useful areas.

as in creative writing- "show, don't tell."

become effective in whatever you're striving in and let the results sort themselves out.

when it comes to dealing with other people, undertake the power of translation. observe how people think, what they care about, the ideas that run through their heads, the language that springs to their hearts and lips. and then build a bridge. and then build a bridge...


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Old 02-17-2013, 09:25 AM   #236
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Giga,

THe "Demonstration, Not Application" rule was in the 48 laws of power and applies everywhere on the path to "enlightened superiority" aka being the best but being humble about it.

Practically all the old films celebrated this as a masculine virtue. I mean there were sporadic doses of cockiness and arrogance but most people (such as Charles Bronson were quiet killers). Now there's rappers going around saying "Mr Steal Yo Girl" and the only time when . It's said in Hagukare that occasionally a person does have to fluant their arrogance.. because it is just like a sword. If staying in the sheath to long it becomes dull but when being withdrawn too many times it loses its impact upon others.

Let's extend the intelligence gig a bit..

SOme guy said intelligence was a persons ability to invent something that would benefit mankind. I do agree, to an extent, but that is more consciountessness (like one love type universal good vibrations type sh!t, i mean sugar)
Another guy said that it was the case of the chimp's self-serving reign to power . THat's more like it!

Gig, define the following and lemme know an archetype that exemplifies each.

Wit.
Wisdom.
A Rational Mind.
Deductive Reasoning.
ANalogical Reasoning.
Inductive Reasoning.
Creativity.
Free Association.
FLuid Intelligence.
Vivid Imagination.
Visual THinking
Verbal Reasoning
Parallel Thinking.
Crystallized Intelligence.
Brainpower.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:49 AM   #237
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you run rings around me with your energy, J$. in most areas of life and the internet, i just kind of pop in for a little while, see if anything interesting happens, and then go lie down for awhile. heh.

you do bring up a million and one scintillating issues with boundless puppy-dog enthusiasm, however.

you know, in an alternate universe i have your same level of energy and your questing nature and we go back and forth all day talking about all kinds of interesting and inane shit. in any case, you always leave me with interesting things to think about.

archetypes for broad aspects of those qualities? how about pantheons of gods and legendary heroes across various cultures? have you found any inspiration along those lines?

i don't know... modern examples?

oscar wilde and dorothy parker for wit.
goethe for wisdom.
doyle's holmes for inductive, deductive and reductive reasoning.
robert anton wilson for fluid intelligence.
noam chomsky for verbal reasoning.
hawking for brain power.
picasso and van gogh for damaged creativity.
a supercomputer for parallel thinking.

ugh... brain tired. i need to lie down already.
damn you, thomas jefferson and your huge wheelbarrow full of money!
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:34 PM   #238
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to the ph@ggott that neg rep me on this thread...

I know you don't know where to begin, you are that retarded.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:50 PM   #239
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"keep complaining I dare you"

I don't care ph@gott! I'm not a complete loser like yourself.

Coward bitch afraid to be owned... priceless.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:51 PM   #240
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No love for me?
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