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Old 04-09-2013, 11:15 AM   #391
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Deadlifts are awesome. When I first started working out I was hesitant to do them because I was afraid I would hurt my back/not use proper technique. As soon as I started incorporating them into my back workouts, I noticed a big difference in my overall gains. If you don't have lower back problems, you should definitely do deadlifts and you'll quickly feel the benefits.

I would actually recommend deadlifts to people who do have lower back problems. I used to suffer a few, and as soon as I started deadlifting, I haven't had a single lower back problem since. I don't know exactly how long I've been deadlifting but its been about 2 years I'd say.

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i have been doing bench press as my first chest exercise for few months now, should i change it to incline dumbbell press and move bench press as the second chest exercise?
Third would be incline flies btw.

You're more about functionality rather than visuals/bodybuilding, correct?
I'd recommend sticking with bench press as your primary/first exercise until you start stalling, and aren't seeing any gains for 2 or 3 weeks. I'd also recommend doing incline barbell if you have the equipment for that. Since you'll be able to push more weight this way, and its going to help you become as strong as possible, which is what you're going for.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:20 AM   #392
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Seconded on plowkings DL recommendation.

I neglected that shit for like the past 3 months and I started to have aches on the basketball court.

the thing is that if u do deads properly they STRENGTHEN THE FUKK out of your stomach and your glutes. heels on the floor, shoulders on top of bar, hips back, neutral spine, scapula retracted and down, and pretend that you're Wrapping your entire spine (from the top part of your head around something as you are lifting the bar opposed to violently jerking your lumbar).

and if u have mobile hips your back is protected. and if you have a strong TA muscle your spine is protected. for the most part.

hell this is reason enough to lift. it literally saves u from inevitable bullsh!t that detracts your quality of life down the road eh?

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Old 04-09-2013, 11:47 AM   #393
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I third the Deads. Ever since I learned how to dead properly, I feel much better overall. The thing with them (well, pretty much any movement out there actually) is that it's not deadlifting that's causing them pain. It's WHATEVER THE **** THEY'RE DOING that's causing them pain. I would not bring myself to call a "lift" where one's back is as round as a rainbow and their knees are being mistaken for doors because they keep knocking (bad pun, I know). It also exposes what's wrong with you. Aside from possibly being the best strength and mass builder ever, it's also a very good diagnostic tool for one's body.

Anyway, just thought I'd share, I tried a beginner's wrestling and jiu-jitsu class with my friend at a local MMA gym and I was absolutely not prepared for how "homo" it was. I got nutted how many times by my trainer and friend and when we were doing ground work, holy crap, it was just bad. Not to mention the cool downs were weird as ****. Holding each other's leg while hopping on the other. Doing medicine ball sit-ups with our feet anchored on each other's ass, etc. Still, I got nothing for respect for them athletes that go through the rigorous training that wrestling is known for, and I'm actually interested in continuing the class. Anyone with wrestling background here that could convince me to keep at it?
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:57 AM   #394
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Forgot to post about why I actually bumped the thread.

Has anyone had any pain in their traps and neck when turning their head? Like consistently over a long period of time? I'm talking half a year. Its just always a little tingle? I had it for a good year at one point. Then I took some time off gym, came back, started stretching a lot more, and it hadn't come back for a good 6 months of lifting. And now, it seems to be slowly creeping back. Its the right side of my neck/trap. Its a sharp sensation when I try turn my neck to look behind me. Its not ridiculously painful, but just annoying and nagging.

Any ideas? I know trigger point would be good for it, but does anyone have any idea what would cause it over time, and what I should focus on to correct it?

NotYetGreat, keep up the combat sports. They're great for a variety of reasons. Self defense, some of the best fitness out there, and great for functional strength. I did amateur boxing for a long time myself and it was great.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:57 AM   #395
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I third the Deads. Ever since I learned how to dead properly, I feel much better overall. The thing with them (well, pretty much any movement out there actually) is that it's not deadlifting that's causing them pain. It's WHATEVER THE **** THEY'RE DOING that's causing them pain. I would not bring myself to call a "lift" where one's back is as round as a rainbow and their knees are being mistaken for doors because they keep knocking (bad pun, I know). It also exposes what's wrong with you. Aside from possibly being the best strength and mass builder ever, it's also a very good diagnostic tool for one's body.

Anyway, just thought I'd share, I tried a beginner's wrestling and jiu-jitsu class with my friend at a local MMA gym and I was absolutely not prepared for how "homo" it was. I got nutted how many times by my trainer and friend and when we were doing ground work, holy crap, it was just bad. Not to mention the cool downs were weird as ****. Holding each other's leg while hopping on the other. Doing medicine ball sit-ups with our feet anchored on each other's ass, etc. Still, I got nothing for respect for them athletes that go through the rigorous training that wrestling is known for, and I'm actually interested in continuing the class. Anyone with wrestling background here that could convince me to keep at it?


All about adaptation and a change of perspective like all things in life my filipino friend.

I remember being queezy in the locker room or whatever changing in front of dude's or when in certain jiujitsu gorund matches it looked like dudes were fukking each other missionary stylebut it's just typical useless fear. No one fukking cares. People just say ehh what the hell purpose of a dude's body is to leverage you to the floor to give u more strength so its just a tool. no sexuality involved. Hell even in basketball dudes literlaly shove their azz in your crotch to get the rebs big deal its just strategy lol.

You must remember your goal first and foremost. To become a badass warrior and a better athlete than the day before. repeat day after day lol. All that lifting is about to pay off Mr. NYG for you have chosen to polish up your wrestling skills concurrently!

As long as you dispense your semen in the orifice of the creature that bubbles F on the Scantron sheets, then you are a heterosexual. Anything else goes.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:00 PM   #396
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anyone know how to strengthen my core? getting up off my ass really burns my abs up sometimes
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:16 PM   #397
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Pissed off!

I was doing Bench last Saturday (by myself) and was doing a record best for me 240lbs. Got to 9 reps (and for some reason) thought I had one more left in me, BIG MISTAKE!. As I brought the bar down I completely failed, I couldn't lift the bar off of me so I decided to rest it on my chest (<<<<super idiot!!) as I did this I felt two pops go off in my rib cage.

Now I have cracked ribs and it's going to take 3 to 4 weeks to heal. Now I can't really do any training and the momentum I was building towards summer is pissed down the drain.

F**K!

Learn from my mistake. If your working without a spotter, and your not sure if you have one more rep in you or not <<don't push it. Better safe than sorry.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:46 PM   #398
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Pissed off!

I was doing Bench last Saturday (by myself) and was doing a record best for me 240lbs. Got to 9 reps (and for some reason) thought I had one more left in me, BIG MISTAKE!. As I brought the bar down I completely failed, I couldn't lift the bar off of me so I decided to rest it on my chest (<<<<super idiot!!) as I did this I felt two pops go off in my rib cage.

Now I have cracked ribs and it's going to take 3 to 4 weeks to heal. Now I can't really do any training and the momentum I was building towards summer is pissed down the drain.

F**K!

Learn from my mistake. If your working without a spotter, and your not sure if you have one more rep in you or not <<don't push it. Better safe than sorry.
im sorry but
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:56 PM   #399
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im sorry but

LOL..I agree, it's funny if it's not you! Sucks otherwise.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:01 PM   #400
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come on man wasnt there ANYONE in the gym to help you?
or you were like: nah nah brah i got it i got it get away from me dont touch the bar brah, * rib pop* - dude you are in pain can i help you - nah nah brah i got it i got it * other rib pop* - dude i think something popped - nah nah brah its all cool, no pain no gain
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:04 PM   #401
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come on man wasnt there ANYONE in the gym to help you?
or you were like: nah nah brah i got it i got it get away from me dont touch the bar brah, * rib pop* - dude you are in pain can i help you - nah nah brah i got it i got it * other rib pop* - dude i think something popped - nah nah brah its all cool, no pain no gain


I was working out at home alone. I had to get that donkey off my chest by myself. Sh!t wasn't pretty.
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Old 04-09-2013, 02:06 PM   #402
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Pissed off!

I was doing Bench last Saturday (by myself) and was doing a record best for me 240lbs. Got to 9 reps (and for some reason) thought I had one more left in me, BIG MISTAKE!. As I brought the bar down I completely failed, I couldn't lift the bar off of me so I decided to rest it on my chest (<<<<super idiot!!) as I did this I felt two pops go off in my rib cage.

Now I have cracked ribs and it's going to take 3 to 4 weeks to heal. Now I can't really do any training and the momentum I was building towards summer is pissed down the drain.

F**K!

Learn from my mistake. If your working without a spotter, and your not sure if you have one more rep in you or not <<don't push it. Better safe than sorry.

Out of interest, how did you get the bar off after that?

EDIT: I'm hoping you didn't put safety pins on each side, because that would be a bitch to get off. Rolling it down most likely. I never put pins on when I'm benching alone... In case I need to get the weights off, I push one side up and the weights slide off.
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Out of interest, how did you get the bar off after that?

EDIT: I'm hoping you didn't put safety pins on each side, because that would be a bitch to get off. Rolling it down most likely. I never put pins on when I'm benching alone... In case I need to get the weights off, I push one side up and the weights slide off.

I rolled it down my body scratching the sh!t out of my stomach. Then tilted it off me denting my wall.

Edit. Had clips on too-----like a moron.

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I rolled it down my body scratching the sh!t out of my stomach. Then tilted it off me denting my wall.

That's no fun...

I'm guessing you don't have a power/squat rack at your house? I used to bench in their when I would go super heavy and not have anyone in the gym with me. The safety racks would pick it up once I deflated my chest if I couldn't get another rep out.

EDIT: Yeah, clips, not pins lol... What was I thinking. Yeah, I never do bench with them on. You're in such a prone and vulnerable position. Very scary having that coming down on you, and if you do rest it on your chest, it possibly slipping and rolling down to your neck. Not much you can do with them on.
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That's no fun...

I'm guessing you don't have a power/squat rack at your house? I used to bench in their when I would go super heavy and not have anyone in the gym with me. The safety racks would pick it up once I deflated my chest if I couldn't get another rep out.

EDIT: Yeah, clips, not pins lol... What was I thinking. Yeah, I never do bench with them on. You're in such a prone and vulnerable position. Very scary having that coming down on you, and if you do rest it on your chest, it possibly slipping and rolling down to your neck. Not much you can do with them on.
I do have a power rack but also have a bench press which I was using....should of been in the rack.
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