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Old 07-09-2013, 05:48 PM   #691
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:13 PM   #692
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Back & biceps later tonight, am I the only one that hates one arm DB rows, almost always feel like I'm going to throw up when I do them.
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:25 PM   #693
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That's cuz most people online will post the absolute most they've EVER lifted for one rep, and act like it's their go-to weight.

not to mention, the people who are posting what they lift, are posting it because they are very proud of it

i bench just under 50kg

thats not an impressive number, so im not gonna brag about it
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:28 PM   #694
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im just looking to put on muscle mass, how long should a workout be?

i talked to a guy at a supplement store and he said 45mins to an hour.

he emphasised not to be working out much longer than that.

is it really that big of a deal?
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:04 PM   #695
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Back & biceps later tonight, am I the only one that hates one arm DB rows, almost always feel like I'm going to throw up when I do them.
Nah, I hate them too. Did them for about 7 months and quit them, now I just do Bent-over Barbell rows. Plus I hated how long it took to finish a set, having to do one arm at a time.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:11 PM   #696
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im just looking to put on muscle mass, how long should a workout be?

i talked to a guy at a supplement store and he said 45mins to an hour.

he emphasised not to be working out much longer than that.

is it really that big of a deal?

Do 2 to 3 exercises for each body part.

3 to 4 sets each exercise

Try to rest between 1-3 minutes between sets. (This is tricky cause it really depends on the person, I know people who can hit their next set 25 seconds later and I know others that need at least 3 minutes...So you have to learn yourself how much rest you need between sets.)

How ever long that takes^^ is how long your workout is. Don't go into the gym saying, "Okay I'm going to workout an hour today" When ever you finish- you finish.

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Old 07-10-2013, 09:30 PM   #697
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Back & biceps later tonight, am I the only one that hates one arm DB rows, almost always feel like I'm going to throw up when I do them.
its actually the opposite for me, i barely feel anything if i do them... i tried different angles, different weight but nothing does it for me really i guess that exercise is not for me... but i do feel like shit when i do barbell rows...

and i was busy today so i skipped gym, i feel like a weak ass fa*got right now...
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:27 AM   #698
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I've been eating like a demon recently and am back up to 221lbs. Saying that though, I've been hitting chest hard. 4 days a week, and I'm making everything else my complimentary exercises. Doing pull ups almost everyday, and I throw in the rest of my big lifts like squats, deadlifts, military press on those days as well.

Can't remember what video it was that I watched, but a body builder mentioned something about giving your muscles a certain period of time to rest being bullshit. If you want to hit something hard, then having a whole days rest is more than enough, so the next day you can hit it again. This way of training seems to be working well for me. My chest is looking better than ever after hitting it as many times a week as I can. I'm noticing a huge difference in my upper chest, particularly middle upper chest, which I've actually gotten a lot of comments on from friends recently.
Apart from the visual side, I've also noticed my stamina on pushing exercises has increased, like bench and military press. I'm not necessarily pushing more weight on them, but I can do weights I was working with previously for 3 or 4 more reps now. I'm sure if I actually gave my chest a decent rest I'd see that my 1 rep max has gone up too.

Anyway, that's all for now. Probably going to keep up this heavy chest focused exercise regime for another 2 weeks, then probably change to a back focused one for 5 or 6 weeks.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:40 AM   #699
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Nah, I hate them too. Did them for about 7 months and quit them, now I just do Bent-over Barbell rows. Plus I hated how long it took to finish a set, having to do one arm at a time.


Glad I'm not the only one, plus I have a hairline fracture in my wrist thanks to slamming a DB to the ground with my hand still on it, no cast or surgery needed but it's a real pain. I skipped doing them tonight, just did Pendlay & T-bar rows, if your gym has a pullover machine I highly recommend working that into your routine. My lats have grown a bit and I have visible serratus muscles now.

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its actually the opposite for me, i barely feel anything if i do them... i tried different angles, different weight but nothing does it for me really i guess that exercise is not for me... but i do feel like shit when i do barbell rows...


Try doing them like this -

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dori...ood-guts-2.htm

(3:53 mins into the video)

He pulls them up and back at an angle towards his hip, I started doing them like that and you really feel it.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:41 AM   #700
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Can't remember what video it was that I watched, but a body builder mentioned something about giving your muscles a certain period of time to rest being bullshit.
It is. You can go hard every day, just avoid doing the same muscle group 2 days in a row.
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:56 AM   #701
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Can't remember what video it was that I watched, but a body builder mentioned something about giving your muscles a certain period of time to rest being bullshit.

Was it this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmmQ7Vk7Wpk

I love CT Fletcher. I incorporated a lot of his philosophy's into my own training. Chest was always a weak area for me. So I started doing it twice a week(every 3 to 4 days). Been doing this for almost a year now and my chest has literately doubled in size.

So I do believe that 'over training' is more myth than reality. It exists, but harder to achieve than a lot of people think.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:46 PM   #702
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Was it this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmmQ7Vk7Wpk

I love CT Fletcher. I incorporated a lot of his philosophy's into my own training. Chest was always a weak area for me. So I started doing it twice a week(every 3 to 4 days). Been doing this for almost a year now and my chest has literately doubled in size.

So I do believe that 'over training' is more myth than reality. It exists, but harder to achieve than a lot of people think.


Most bodybuilders will say overtraining is bullshit, but then again a lot of them are on steroids and cycles that would make King Kong have a heart attack. I do agree with you though, it's real but the average gym goer isn't in danger of overtraining.

I do most body parts/lifts 2 times a week, sometimes 3 (biceps/triceps) if I feel like I've been lagging behind on them.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:55 PM   #703
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There is the medical condition of overtraining with legitimate physical symptoms.

Then there is training more than is optimal for your goals.

People constantly confuse the two.

Usually when people talk about overtraining they aren't talking about the medical condition, they are talking about working out more than is optimal to reach your goals. If you aren't allowing your muscles enough time to fully recover between workouts then you are over training. You might never experience the insomnia/weakness/flu like symptoms of the medical condition, but you are still training too often.
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:23 PM   #704
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Most bodybuilders will say overtraining is bullshit, but then again a lot of them are on steroids and cycles that would make King Kong have a heart attack.


This x100. I really don't undestand so many people in this thread following advices and looking at videos of bodybuilders who CLEARLY use steroids instead of following natural bodybuilders like Layne Norton, 3DMJ team, coach Eric Helms,...

It's hilarious how many myths exists because of the bodybuilders who use steroids . Believe me, youtube those people I mentioned and listen to them if you're not on roids, your progress will be so much better.

And I'm not talking about overtraining. I'm doing complex exercises like squats, bench press, push press etc, almost every second day. So 3-4 times per week, but obvioulsy not always with max weight(low rep-max weight, volume training-lower weight, explosive training-around 60% max weight). And I'm seeing by far better results than in the past when I was doing ''one muscle group only once per week until complete muscle failure''. Not to mention way too many isolation exercises in the past and all other bullsh!t which is practised by ROID bodybuilders. Oh, and better not even mention all the myths about nutrition

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Old 07-15-2013, 05:56 PM   #705
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im just looking to put on muscle mass, how long should a workout be?

i talked to a guy at a supplement store and he said 45mins to an hour.

he emphasised not to be working out much longer than that.

is it really that big of a deal?
Heard about this before. Its gotta do with the fact that if you work out more than that duration of time, your metabolism will continue to rise and adversely affect your muscle gains i think. Personally, i try not to work out more for more than an hour. But this duration varies with intensity and the person working out himself
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