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Old 06-04-2012, 01:32 PM   #16
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Default Re: Is the "LeBron's Teammates Suck" excuse in the making yet again?

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He's just cursed. Even with the team he has now though, they still have failed to get the best overall record and they have failed to sweep anybody in the playoffs. He did that in Cleveland though. He has Wade and Bosh but the rest of the guys don't even compare to his Cavs rosters.


You mean those Cavs players that totally disappeared in the 09 and 10 playoffs?
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:36 PM   #17
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Default Re: Is the "LeBron's Teammates Suck" excuse in the making yet again?

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Going on sports forums reading posts and getting input from other sport fanatics, I'm getting the impression that when he fails again that this is gonna be the excuse yet again despite him playing on arguably the best team in the league. This can't really be a valid excuse anymore can it?...

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It was never really a valid excuse in the first place. Being that all those FAKE Cavs fans were STILL running their mouths about a Cavs title when he was there. But the minute they lost, it was "oh...well....the Cavs sucked." Then they all jumped the bandwagon the minute he left Cleveland talking bout how bad Lebron supposedly had it there. Like people don't remember they were the same ones talking sh*t about a title with those same Cavs. Now, they're doing the same thing with the Heat. At some point, NORMAL, THINKING, RATIONAL, people will have to look at the most common denominator on those teams, which is Lebron and conclude the problem isn't the teams and never was.
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:40 PM   #18
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Default Re: Is the "LeBron's Teammates Suck" excuse in the making yet again?

Excuse or no Excuse... its the truth that counts... its like saying a crippled guy who cant walk is just an "excuse"... i guess so... but he still cant walk for that same reason aka. "excuse", just like Lebrons supporting cast in absence of Bosh doesnt allow him or makes it extremly difficult to win a championship with the way they have been playing lately is a reason aka. "excuse"...

Lebrons teammates dont suck, they just aint good enough (not good enough to do what he wants to do, win a championship) and have at this stage been playing way below even their own standards... offensively is not so much of a super problem, its DEFENSE.... and the Celtics present the worst mismatch of any team for his supporting cast, Big Men who toy with his 6'8 "big men" who are not any bigger than himself and an elite PG that toys with his awesome PGs...

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Old 06-04-2012, 01:40 PM   #19
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Default Re: Is the "LeBron's Teammates Suck" excuse in the making yet again?

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He's just cursed. Even with the team he has now though, they still have failed to get the best overall record and they have failed to sweep anybody in the playoffs. He did that in Cleveland though. He has Wade and Bosh but the rest of the guys don't even compare to his Cavs rosters.
So LeBron needs:
Mo Williams/Chalmers
D.Wade/Miller
Varejao/Big Z
Lebron/Battier
Bosh/Jamison
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:55 PM   #20
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Default Re: Is the "LeBron's Teammates Suck" excuse in the making yet again?

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Excuse or no Excuse... its the truth that counts... its like saying a crippled guy who cant walk is just an "excuse"... i guess so... but he still cant walk for that same reason aka. "excuse", just like Lebrons supporting cast in absence of Bosh doesnt allow him or makes it extremly difficult to win a championship with the way they have been playing lately is a reason aka. "excuse"...

Lebrons teammates dont suck, they just aint good enough (not good enough to do what he wants to do, win a championship) and have at this stage been playing way below even their own standards... offensively is not so much of a super problem, its DEFENSE.... and the Celtics present the worst mismatch of any team for his supporting cast, Big Men who toy with his 6'8 "big men" who are not any bigger than himself and an elite PG that toys with his awesome PGs...
Um. At the beginning of the season, Heat fans were all "CHAMPIONSHIP CRUISE baby! Battier? Healthy Haslem? RINGS FOR DAYS BITCHEZZZ" and now "LeBron doesn't have enough help."

You can't even make stuff up this hilarious.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:02 PM   #21
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Um. At the beginning of the season, Heat fans were all "CHAMPIONSHIP CRUISE baby! Battier? Healthy Haslem? RINGS FOR DAYS BITCHEZZZ" and now "LeBron doesn't have enough help."

You can't even make stuff up this hilarious.

Thats what fans do...... cheer, overreact, being biased... but we shall see, the series is tied right now, both teams simply took care of their homecourt, it could have easily been 3-1 for the Heat... Heat can still win this despite:

1. Bosh being out, he is basically the only "big guy" they have inside and a BIG missing puzzle offensively...
2. Wade is performing way below under his standards, either thats the case or he is simply declining.... maybe a bit of both...
3. The supporting cast is not hitting their entirely open shots and is just way to undersized defensively against Celtics...

Lebron does have maybe enough help... the problem is that that "help" is not helping as much as they could, Celtics present a nightmarish matchup defensively for them, they are playing way below their standards offensively, especially Wade (he is much better than this), Bosh has been injured aswell....

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Old 06-04-2012, 02:06 PM   #22
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Default Re: Is the "LeBron's Teammates Suck" excuse in the making yet again?

I'll just ignore Wade and Bosh since everyone knows what they bring the table.

Chalmers is a damn good role player whose value around the league will only grow when/if the Heat win a title. I can't stand the guy because he comes off as a jack ass, but the guy is a baller. He always seems to show up for big games.

Add in Miller, Battier, Anthony, Haslem, etc. and you've got yourself a lot of quality role players. If I had to criticize the Heat, I would criticize LeBron and Wade for not getting the other guys involved more. When Boston came together they sacrificed shots for the team; the only people who have sacrificed for the Heat are Bosh and the role players.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:10 PM   #23
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Default Re: Is the "LeBron's Teammates Suck" excuse in the making yet again?

Not LeBron's fault that Wade has been well below his usual standards and Bosh got hurt.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:14 PM   #24
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The Heat were built on 3 stars and then plugging the roster with the best available players willing to take whatever $$$ was offered. The risk with having 3 superstars is that if one gets injured (Bosh in the playoffs), it forces a much heavier burden on the remaining 2 stars and for others to step up who have not necessarily been given the opportunity to carry such expectaions. Having 3 stars took away from any kind of depth, and injuries are inevitable. As nice as it is to see Lebron, Wade, and Bosh on one roster, Riley knew full well he was putting all his eggs in one basket in sacrificing a half decent roster around those 3. There are no excuses... injuries are part of professional sports.
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Default Re: Is the "LeBron's Teammates Suck" excuse in the making yet again?

If Lebron doesnt win a championship or lose this series then the problem that caused that result would be obvious... thats all im saying... Last year you could blame it on Lebron due to his 18 ppg Finals performance and 24-8-6 playoffs performance, fine.. but this playoffs he averages 30-9-6 @ 50% FG and in this Celtic series 32-10-5 @ 52% FG and playing remarkable defense trying to guard 5 positions and leads everybody in 4th quarter scoring, this playoff run by Lebron is actually his 2nd best Playoff run of his career production wise, 2nd only to that 35-9-7 playoff run he had in Cleveland, his PER is off the charts and infact his PER is on track of being one of the 5 best playoff PER ratings in NBA history....

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Excuse or no Excuse... its the truth that counts... its like saying a crippled guy who cant walk is just an "excuse"... i guess so... but he still cant walk for that same reason aka. "excuse", just like Lebrons supporting cast in absence of Bosh doesnt allow him or makes it extremly difficult to win a championship with the way they have been playing lately is a reason aka. "excuse"...

Lebrons teammates dont suck, they just aint good enough (not good enough to do what he wants to do, win a championship) and have at this stage been playing way below even their own standards... offensively is not so much of a super problem, its DEFENSE.... and the Celtics present the worst mismatch of any team for his supporting cast, Big Men who toy with his 6'8 "big men" who are not any bigger than himself and an elite PG that toys with his awesome PGs...
Kobe would make those guys champs just like he turned bronze into gold.
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Default Re: Is the "LeBron's Teammates Suck" excuse in the making yet again?

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If Lebron doesnt win a championship or lose this series then the problem that caused that result would be obvious... thats all im saying... Last year you could blame it on Lebron due to his 18 ppg Finals performance and 24-8-6 playoffs performance, fine.. but this playoffs he averages 30-9-6 @ 50% FG and in this Celtic series 32-10-5 @ 52% FG and playing remarkable defense trying to guard 5 positions and leads everybody in 4th quarter scoring, this playoff run by Lebron is actually his 2nd best Playoff run of his career production wise, 2nd only to that 35-9-7 playoff run he had in Cleveland, his PER is off the charts and infact his PER is on track of being one of the 5 best playoff PER ratings in NBA history....
Remarkable defense my ass. Who cares if he's guarding 5 positions if they are still taxing his ass.. he's so overrated defensively it makes me sick. He aint stoppin nobody. Granger is the only player he stopped, and granger took himself out of games trying to shoot jumpers all day.
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Default Re: Is the "LeBron's Teammates Suck" excuse in the making yet again?

Lebron picked this team himself. He has no one to blame but himself.
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But honestly, dude is averaging almost a triple double with 30+ points. Its not like you can point the finger at him.

When he gets Bosh back healthy then that excuse isn't legit, but as long as Wade isn't performing and Bosh is out then that excuse is understandable. You have to understand that Miami is a unique team built in a very, very different way. They are one of the most top heavy teams in the history of the game and one injury to a star player changes the dynamic a whole lot. People need to take notice to things like that before playing the blame game. Blaming Lebron for Wade not playing up to standard and Bosh being out is just not fair.
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But honestly, dude is averaging almost a triple double with 30+ points. Its not like you can point the finger at him.

So, as long as a player puts up numbers, you cannot criticize his game in any way?
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