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Old 06-15-2012, 06:01 PM   #76
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Default Re: Raptors Shopping 8th Overall Pick for Established Small Forward

Yes.. give BC two more years of 8th picks and THEN we'll be a championship contending team. Hold on while I put my tooth under the pillow and wait for the toothfairy to give me my money.

*waits*

And, when I say we've been rebuilding, I don't mean that BC has intentionally decided that we are rebuilding, that did indeed only happened after Bosh left. BUT in 7 seasons he's been here we've had 4 lottery picks already and only 2 playoff appearances. So obviously what has been tried isn't working. It doesn't matter if you're tough and gritty if you don't have talent. Ibaka/Westbrook/Durant/Harden took their lumps but that is a LEGIT core. Our core isn't.
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:10 PM   #77
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How about just having one legit core piece like a Kyrie Irving or Kevin Love? That would be a nice start. I'm hoping Valanciunas can be something close to that.
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How about just having one legit core piece like a Kyrie Irving or Kevin Love? That would be a nice start. I'm hoping Valanciunas can be something close to that.
Ok fair enough. I guess that's where we differ significantly. I love Val and I think he will be a hard worker and a fan favorite, but I don't see him as a guy with all-star/superstar potential. I hope i'm proven wrong.
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:38 PM   #79
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Ok fair enough. I guess that's where we differ significantly. I love Val and I think he will be a hard worker and a fan favorite, but I don't see him as a guy with all-star/superstar potential. I hope i'm proven wrong.
Oh me neither. What I hope will happen and what is most likely to happen are two different things. Reasonably, I put Valanciunas' peak as a borderline All-Star. Maybe makes the team legitimately once or twice in his career. I'd be thrilled with that.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:08 PM   #80
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Yes.. give BC two more years of 8th picks and THEN we'll be a championship contending team. Hold on while I put my tooth under the pillow and wait for the toothfairy to give me my money.

*waits*

And, when I say we've been rebuilding, I don't mean that BC has intentionally decided that we are rebuilding, that did indeed only happened after Bosh left. BUT in 7 seasons he's been here we've had 4 lottery picks already and only 2 playoff appearances. So obviously what has been tried isn't working. It doesn't matter if you're tough and gritty if you don't have talent. Ibaka/Westbrook/Durant/Harden took their lumps but that is a LEGIT core. Our core isn't.

You're right. Better he trades the pick for Luol Deng and signs a border line fa so we sneak into the playoffs and then BC gets a 3 year extension.

I'd prefer him to have another losing season and finally be shown the door.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:12 PM   #81
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It'd of course have to be someone greater than Luol Deng for it to be worth it. But anyways, agree to disagree, this isn't going anywhere.
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It'd of course have to be someone greater than Luol Deng for it to be worth it. But anyways, agree to disagree, this isn't going anywhere.

Even if it were rudy gay (who they would never trade for 8) still the same situation. The point is; if BC has 2 more years of lottery it will be the end of his rein, which is the best case for the franchise.
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