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Old 01-19-2007, 07:11 PM   #16
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well, unlike you i dont give a damn about stats, i value other things more, like millers ability to make a poor indiana team contend, unlike drexler who could do nothing but lose with a great portland team.

Drexlers Portland teams were never great, but were damn good. He never played with another hall of famer, or 2-3 if your Magic/Bird. Clydes 2nd best player was 2 time All-Star Terry Porter. Magic/Birds 2nd best players were Hallof Famers Kareem/McHale.
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:13 PM   #17
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i was comparing drexler to miller, not magic, miller didnt play with hall of famers either, portland was much better than indiana.

with that said both magic and bird are better than drexler, far better, and that my friend is inarguable.
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:21 PM   #18
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Dennis Johnson, for sure
George Mikan
John Stockton
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magic is better than kareem easily, kareem was magic's sidekick in most of his championships.

see thats why it is justified to call him underrated
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:25 PM   #20
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Kareem was Magic's sidekick? LOL not on the court. In terms as being a trancendant figure, yes. Magic had the smile, the persobality, the flavor, the endorsements etc. and certainally garnered more attention than Kareem, but they were equals on the court until Kareem started to get old.
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Centers of the 80's and 90's are almost all underrated.

Ewing is. Sure, he was no Dream, but he didn't exactly su(k. He couldn't defeat prime Jordan - that's what he was fault at.

David Robinson is, when compared to Tim Duncan. Robinson was every bit as good as Duncan, and I'd say even better on ability. He had a much tougher time to compete is but he was great. Duncan is good but he just arrived in time.

Brad Dougherty is. Robert Parish. Even Bill Cartwright is underrated. He was a lot better than 2 funny looking free throws. I could go on with this list but you get the concept.

Yeah, those guys were underrated too. Especially Brad, many don't even know who he is anymore. And yeah, Robinson was fantastic as well
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:14 PM   #22
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The most underrated player ever :




He was a monster at ABA. And NBA all star for 6 years. Too think he did not make it to the top 50 players ever. He is not even in the HOF yet. OMG!!
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:39 PM   #23
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Kareem was Magic's sidekick? LOL not on the court. In terms as being a trancendant figure, yes. Magic had the smile, the persobality, the flavor, the endorsements etc. and certainally garnered more attention than Kareem, but they were equals on the court until Kareem started to get old.

hey, im not dissing kareem here, dont get me wrong, he was great in the 80, 82 and 85 championships, but in 87 and 88 ? that was mostly magic, kareem was old and putting 15-8 numbers, he was no longer dominant.

in the 87-88 titles kareem looked like shaq did in last year's championship with the heat.
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hey, im not dissing kareem here, dont get me wrong, he was great in the 80, 82 and 85 championships, but in 87 and 88 ? that was mostly magic, kareem was old and putting 15-8 numbers, he was no longer dominant.

in the 87-88 titles kareem looked like shaq did in last year's championship with the heat.
And what about all Kareem did in the 70s?

His best was actually in the 70s. Magic basically lasted in the 80s and early 90s
Kareem had 2 decades of domination. Big difference.

Has Kareem won without Magic? Yes
Has Magic won without Kareem? No
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kareem won with robertson so dont give me that crap, magic won in 87 and 88 when kareem was pretty much as productive as tree rollins.
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magic is better than kareem easily, kareem was magic's sidekick in most of his championships.

Very few people (relatively speaking) have Magic over Kareem on their all-time lists. Some do, but it's nowhere near a majority. Kareem simply had a better career than Magic according to most people.
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kareem won with robertson so dont give me that crap, magic won in 87 and 88 when kareem was pretty much as productive as tree rollins.
Once again...What about the 70s? You are acting like Kareem only existed in the 80s...

Do you realize that most of Kareem's domination was done in the 70s?
Kareem won 5 MVPs in the 70s. Thats more domination than Magic could've ever done
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well, i can disagree with them, right ? there are many who think magic > kareem too.
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Very few people (relatively speaking) have Magic over Kareem on their all-time lists. Some do, but it's nowhere near a majority. Kareem simply had a better career than Magic according to most people.
And thats because its true. No doubt about it
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Once again...What about the 70s? You are acting like Kareem only existed in the 80s...

Do you realize that most of Kareem's domination was done in the 70s?
Kareem won 5 MVPs in the 70s. Thats more domination than Magic could've ever done

those domination years didnt translate into wins, hell he even missed the playoffs once, magic never missed the playoffs and made the finals 9 times in 12 seasons, even when the lakers sucked in 91 he still lead them to the finals, if domination doesnt end in a ring it doesnt mean anything.
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