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Old 10-01-2013, 05:16 PM   #2506
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"Hmmm... maybe it will go better for me this time around."
I read an article 20 minutes ago from a interview by jesse on the finale episode. one of the questions was "what does jesse do now?" he said that

"I think he probably goes and says bye to Brock, if he can, or at least just sees him from a distance and then he leaves. Maybe Alaska, maybe New Zealand. Becomes a bush pilot. Itís all part of the story.Ē

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Old 10-01-2013, 05:33 PM   #2507
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What are you talking about? He did exactly that throughout the finale. His admission to Skylar that he did it all for himself, his eerie admiration of the meth lab at the end, and his overall calm demeanor throughout the show basically showed that he had accepted he was a monster that could not help himself. In fact, the only change for him was his final realization he wasn't a good person. Sure, he got to help out his family and save Jesse, but its not like being a monster and caring for people is mutually exclusive. But in the end, he accepts he's not a good person, he dies, his family hates him even in death.

it just irked me that there were dozens of instances to come to this conclusion throughout the show, plenty of far more obvious times, but he only gets there at the very end.

like what was so special about these circumstances that he accepted that he was a monster? why not admit to this at any point earlier? like when he poisons brock? or lets jane die? or causes hanks death?

none of these things forced him to objectively evaluate what he was doing?
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Old 10-01-2013, 05:40 PM   #2508
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it just irked me that there were dozens of instances to come to this conclusion throughout the show, plenty of far more obvious times, but he only gets there at the very end.

like what was so special about these circumstances that he accepted that he was a monster? why not admit to this at any point earlier? like when he poisons brock? or lets jane die? or causes hanks death?

none of these things forced him to objectively evaluate what he was doing?

I'm thinking it has to do mostly with his time alone to think. Take this quote from Orange is the New Black:

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Yeah, I know how easy it is to convince yourself that youíre something that youíre not. And you can do that on the outside, you can just keep moving, keep yourself so busy you donít have to face who you really are. But youíre weak. Iím like you, Deana, Iím weak, too. I canít get through this without somebody to touch, without somebody to love. Is that because sex numbs the pain or is it because Iím some evil ****-monster? I donít know. But I do know I was somebody before I came in here. I was somebody with a life that I chose for myself. And now, now itís just about getting through the day without crying. And Iím scared. Iím still scared. Iím scared that Iím not myself in here and Iím scared that I am. Other people arenít the scariest part of prison, Deana, itís coming face to face with who you really are. Because once youíre behind these walls thereís nowhere to run, even if you could run. The truth catches up with you in here, Deana, and its the truth thatís going to make you her bitch.

Maybe Walt came to a similar realization once he was alone in the woods.
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:59 PM   #2509
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I don't see Walt dying as something going wrong. What would have gone right if he had lived? He goes back into hiding? He gets arrested? Dying at that moment probably was best for him. He got to go out with a smile on his face (metaphorically) by feelings as though he had done something right at the end and admiring the lab based on his work. Also, he goes out with the credit of the blue meth rather than the Nazis stealing some credit.

I'm only saying it's wrong in this sort of death fantasy theory.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:54 PM   #2510
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Walt came to the realization only after he had literally no more choice, no more options, absolutely nothing ahead of him but being alone and dying. It's not like it came at some random time, it came when everything else was done.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:55 PM   #2511
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:51 PM   #2512
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Damnit! I wanna see what Jeese is up to after driving off like a maniac. Maybe signaling a chapter of Need For Speed? Or maybe Jesse just ends up killing himself since he drove too fast.
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:52 PM   #2513
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Finally caught the episode, so I guess I can comment on it without getting e-mugged now

I'll just say, it was the perfect Breaking Bad ending. Everything that was a hallmark of the show was featured in full force in the finale. Stayed true to its roots.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:00 PM   #2514
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Overall, I loved the way things ended.

The Scarface ending happened. Walt, once again, got the best of someone with his brains - the Nazis could have killed him when he walked in, bbut he was able to use Jack's pride against him and got an opportunity.

Walt pleaded for Jack to spare Hank's life for all his barrels of money, and Jack ended Hank's life mid sentence. Just like two episodes ago, Jack pleads Walt to spare a life for the seven barrels of money, the plea is cut off by a bullet to the face mid-sentence.

Hank and Gomie will get a proper burial. Marie will get closure.

Lydia, who always cared so much about her perfect appearance (and her ****ing Stevia packets) would probably eventually end up dead in bed. +1 for Walt, who got her from the grave.

Jesse was freed, and got to brutally murder Todd for Revenge, as well as his lack of human emotion and murdering of Andrea.

Walt got the last laugh in his relationship with Gretchen and Elliot, and his family will finally receive compensation for the shit he put them through without feeling guilty about it.

Walt FINALLY admits that the business was more for him than for his family, and Skyler seemed genuinely relieved and pleased with him for coming to terms with it.

Walt and Jesse shared a final look of grim recognition for one another. Although not quite what I was hoping for.

And Walt dies next to his one true love, as the cops descend upon him, ready to uncover the greatest crime story America has ever seen. With Walt dying there, the cops will find him and the meth lab, along with the nazis and the barrel of money. That way the feds would know he was cooking all along and working with the nazis, and after finding the barrel of money, pretty much means Skylar is off the hook completely. And His legacy will live on. They'll remember his name.

9/10, feeling pretty satisfied. Only thing that would make me happier is if Walt and Jesse actually made peace and shared one last bromance moment.
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:50 AM   #2515
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They were bromancing on the floor while Walt's machine gun was killing the Nazis
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Old 10-02-2013, 01:02 AM   #2516
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I'd like it better if they go with a darker ending where Skylar, Flynn and the baby was brutally tortured and murdered. Walt and Jesse becomes meth making slaves and Todd gets his one night stand with the missus.
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Old 10-02-2013, 01:08 AM   #2517
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I'd like it better if they go with a darker ending where Skylar, Flynn and the baby was brutally tortured and murdered. Walt and Jesse becomes meth making slaves and Todd gets his one night stand with the missus.

That's more up Game of Thrones' alley. If BB was based on a G.R. Martin novel, Walt would've been beheaded by Tuco in season 1 and everyone else would meet a gruesome death eventually. The rest of the White family would've been wiped out in the Red Breakfast
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:09 AM   #2518
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:20 AM   #2519
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:10 AM   #2520
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I'm thinking it has to do mostly with his time alone to think. Take this quote from Orange is the New Black:



Maybe Walt came to a similar realization once he was alone in the woods.
Yea, obviously its because he spent all that time alone with nothing to do. Remember the vacuum guy even said he'll have plenty of time to think things over.
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