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Old 10-02-2013, 04:37 PM   #2536
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You've never heard of someone having to lose everything before they realized everything they had done wrong and just how much of a ****ed up person they are?

you didnt address anything in my post
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Old 10-02-2013, 04:47 PM   #2537
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Sure he did. Your post seemed to indicate that a traumatic event was the only way for somebody to come to such a realization, while he was pointing out an alternative way of coming to such a conclusion.
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you didnt address anything in my post

What did I not address? You seem to think that since those traumatic events didn't make him realize, why would he all of a sudden would he realize now? Because its now gotten to the point he has nothing going for him anymore and he's absolutely miserable. You can easily make the case that he's a self-centered horrible human being who only realizes his wrongdoings once its affected him or someone close to him i.e. someone like himself or Hank, as opposed to Jane, Brock, or Drew Sharp. Not many people are arguing that he isn't that. The point is, there's a big difference between his situation at the end and back then when he was committing those crimes.
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:38 PM   #2539
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i feel like, if the events that happened before dont make you re-evaluate what you are doing, then nothing should.

seeing a child get murdered right in front of you, seeing your brother in law die in front of you, they should make you evaluate things as much as you possible can.

and if you evaluate things as much as you possibly can, then you probably wont change your mind a couple months later.



im not saying that the ending s inherently flawed or anything, just that this doesnt sit well with me
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:10 PM   #2540
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Jesse should have died. Satisfied otherwise.
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Old 10-02-2013, 11:57 PM   #2541
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i feel like, if the events that happened before dont make you re-evaluate what you are doing, then nothing should.

seeing a child get murdered right in front of you, seeing your brother in law die in front of you, they should make you evaluate things as much as you possible can.

and if you evaluate things as much as you possibly can, then you probably wont change your mind a couple months later.



im not saying that the ending s inherently flawed or anything, just that this doesnt sit well with me
But it did alter him.

The whole time, he always told Skylar "I did this for the family!" and he always tricked Jesse into doing things because "It's what you want!"

Yet, in the final episode, he finally told Skylar that "I did it for me. Made me feel alive," and after being forced told Jesse "I want this."

It was a great TV experience.
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Old 10-03-2013, 12:33 AM   #2542
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Late to the party but better late than never. Great ending to a great show. Only fitting that walt faded to black with a smile on his face just inches away from the cook lab. The only part I would've done differently is I would've had todd choke jesse to death and not the other way around. Might as well find a way to involve skyler and flynn in the final scene and give them the todd special as well. In all seriousness I hope the team who brought us BB sticks together because they clearly have the touch when it comes to the television format. Hardly a dull moment throughout the series
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Old 10-03-2013, 11:34 AM   #2543
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i feel like, if the events that happened before dont make you re-evaluate what you are doing, then nothing should.

seeing a child get murdered right in front of you, seeing your brother in law die in front of you, they should make you evaluate things as much as you possible can.

and if you evaluate things as much as you possibly can, then you probably wont change your mind a couple months later.



im not saying that the ending s inherently flawed or anything, just that this doesnt sit well with me

Well not everyone's built like that. Like I asked, you've never heard of someone having to lose everything before they realized everything they had done wrong and just how much of a ****ed up person they are?

Sorry, but there are people that move on with their life even after witnessing something as horrific as a child being murdered in front of them as a result of their actions. If they have a ton of money and power, still have some kind of family, etc. then they don't care as much. Once they lose all that, they realize how horrible some of the things were that led up to that point.

And I don't know why you keep bringing up Hank's death. That really began Walt's realization of how ****ed up things had gotten and how responsible he was for them.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ZiTLPGeIcEs

wow, already
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Old 10-03-2013, 06:54 PM   #2546
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So i guess ill be the first to ask whats obviously on everyones mind.....























how is sauls manager job at cinnabon going?!?!?!? and has he hired huell again to man the cash register??
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What was Gus doing before 1989 ?
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:10 PM   #2548
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Still wondering how Walt poisoned Brock.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:04 PM   #2549
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Default Re: Breaking Bad: Season 5 (Final) Discussion Thread

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Late to the party but better late than never. Great ending to a great show. Only fitting that walt faded to black with a smile on his face just inches away from the cook lab. The only part I would've done differently is I would've had todd choke jesse to death and not the other way around. Might as well find a way to involve skyler and flynn in the final scene and give them the todd special as well. In all seriousness I hope the team who brought us BB sticks together because they clearly have the touch when it comes to the television format. Hardly a dull moment throughout the series

I didn't really care much for Todd. I'd rather have had Walter just shoot Jesse instead of handing the gun over to him.
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Jesse should have died. Satisfied otherwise.
I disagree. I think he was the only character that should stay alive. He was the first character that we were introduced to that was 'bad', or at least bad compared to the others. Through it all he showed compassion and love for the people he cared about and never broke bad.
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