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Old 08-26-2013, 12:23 PM   #1381
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I think it made perfect sense cause it reminded him of before. I don't see how else Jesse could've figured it out other then Walt just admitting to it.

One thing I will criticize them for is when Huell lifted the ricin cigarette from Jesse. Wasn't the ricin cigarette in Jesse's cigarette pack? But Jesse still had the pack. So Huell was somehow able to pick-pocket the ricin cigarette out of Jesse's cigarette pack, right? Isn't that incredibly far-fetched? For him to not only pick-pocket a cigarette out of the pack, but specifically the ricin cigarette? How is that even possible to strategically accomplish? Picking out the weedbag was completely believable, but the ricin cigarette?
hmm interesting thought...well what if he just put a similar pack of cigs into jesse's pocket while just taking the pack with one ricin out?
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:31 PM   #1382
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hmm interesting thought...well what if he just put a similar pack of cigs into jesse's pocket while just taking the pack with one ricin out?

That makes sense. I would assume it would be the exact same pack, which they would've had to look at before.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:57 PM   #1383
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Brock is not dead.


yeah.....I couldn't remember....I knew he was poisoned

I have to go back and watch that episode again...
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( reading the Wiki page) it says the doctors told his mom he ate some berries ( Lilly of the Valley) and will get better soon.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:14 PM   #1384
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Im wondering why Walt keeps getting this particular bottle of ricin. He made the first one out of some damn beans in a few minutes in his kitchen in the first season. Why does he not just make more?
Control. He needs to know that he's the only one in possession of that vial. Why that specific vial keeps coming up could be symbolic.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:18 PM   #1385
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It seems a little too convenient, but Jesse now knows exactly what type of man that Walt is and the depths that he'll go to get what he wants. He was in the exact same situation with the cigarettes it was deja vu and whats the chances that both times he'd just come from Saul's office? I think it was an organic way to put things together because Gus really had no reason to poison Brock but who could stand to gain from everything.......
I think the scene where Jesse sees Walt singing in the shower after Todd kills the kid on the motorbike has a lot to do with it as well. Its really makes a lot of sense when you see how on-the-edge Jesse has been in general and especially around Walt, and the things Jesse notices about Walt over the last season or so. At this point, I don't think Jesse needs to be 100% sure.

Like Joker said in The Dark Knight, sometimes all it takes is a little push.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:36 PM   #1386
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That moment when you realize you've been getting ****ed the whole time

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Old 08-26-2013, 01:38 PM   #1387
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Jesse gonna get murked by Heisenberg wit ricin....
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:43 PM   #1388
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am i the only one that thought the way they had jesse connect the dots was lazy writing? i love this show, and i am happy jesse is figuring shit out, but go about it in a realistic way. just seems unrealistic for saul to have boy precious lift some weed from jesse? seemed liek a cop out. i think he should have figured it out, but just a different way.

ah well let the games begin.

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I think it made perfect sense cause it reminded him of before. I don't see how else Jesse could've figured it out other then Walt just admitting to it.


I just thought out about it some more, and maybe it doesn't make perfect sense, because I forgot, as the story goes, all the clear evidence is supposed to point to Brock getting poisoned on his own as just a freak accident and neither Gus nor Walt intentionally poisoning him. So why should Jesse suspect foul play at all? I guess in this case, he accused Walt of having Saul have Huell pick pocket him before with the ricin only to be convinced otherwise and he confirmed it for sure with the weed bag. I guess its understandable that he wasn't just willing to attribute it to a coincidence and that was enough for him to come with that conclusion (combined with the fact that he knows how crazy Walt is now). Just wasn't as clear and transparent as I originally thought.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:55 PM   #1389
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I just thought out about it some more, and maybe it doesn't make perfect sense, because I forgot, as the story goes, all the clear evidence is supposed to point to Brock getting poisoned on his own as just a freak accident and neither Gus nor Walt intentionally poisoning him. So why should Jesse suspect foul play at all? I guess in this case, he accused Walt of having Saul have Huell pick pocket him before with the ricin only to be convinced otherwise and he confirmed it for sure with the weed bag. I guess its understandable that he wasn't just willing to attribute it to a coincidence and that was enough for him to come with that conclusion (combined with the fact that he knows how crazy Walt is now). Just wasn't as clear and transparent as I originally thought.
I think he made the connection that Walt manipulated him, which set him off. Not that he necessarily poisoned Brock. Though at that point assuming that Walt may have done the poisoning as well isn't a reach.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:57 PM   #1390
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remember that time when walter went to jesses house, and they had a discussion about the kid and the ricin and walter swore he didnt do it.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:00 PM   #1391
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Im wondering why Walt keeps getting this particular bottle of ricin. He made the first one out of some damn beans in a few minutes in his kitchen in the first season. Why does he not just make more?

Chekhov's gun.

I know it's been explained in the thread already, but I still don't understand how Jessie came to the realization of Walt poisoned Brock. So he becomes aware that the ricin cigarette got lifted and he jumps to the conclusion that Walt was behind Brock almost dying? I know I'm missing something...


What I love about this show is that even when it's predictable, it can still make your jaw drop. Obviously Walt wasn't going to confess to what he did. If for anything, there's 5 episodes left in the series. Then it was easy deduce from his conversation (still not willing to give up the kids) at the guac restaurant that he was going to try and turn the tables on Hank. Still, Hank and Marie's watching of the confession tape was an incredible scene.

Per usual, great pace to the episode.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:04 PM   #1392
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When they showed Walt's house abandoned, it didn't look burned. I have to go back and look.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:11 PM   #1393
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I'm listening to a breaking bad recap podcast, and they brought up something interesting. In the flashback when Gus and his partner visit the Cartel and Gus's partner is killed, Don Eladio says to Gus afterwards that the only reason he's alive is because of who he is but he should understand he's not in Chile anymore. Basically saying that even the Cartel wouldn't kill Gus because of his Chilean contacts. Well, Walt killed Gus, so it makes you wonder if Walt gets a visit from Gus's old Chilean associates.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:15 PM   #1394
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When they showed Walt's house abandoned, it didn't look burned. I have to go back and look.

It wasn't. I saw an interesting theory that what if what Jessie is pouring methylamine?

Although the way he was soaking the house and with his demeanor, it would seem he had the intention of destruction. I'm positive the house doesn't get burnt, tho, in my dream world he burns it down with Flynn inside eating breakfast.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:20 PM   #1395
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I think it made perfect sense cause it reminded him of before. I don't see how else Jesse could've figured it out other then Walt just admitting to it.

One thing I will criticize them for is when Huell lifted the ricin cigarette from Jesse. Wasn't the ricin cigarette in Jesse's cigarette pack? But Jesse still had the pack. So Huell was somehow able to pick-pocket the ricin cigarette out of Jesse's cigarette pack, right? Isn't that incredibly far-fetched? For him to not only pick-pocket a cigarette out of the pack, but specifically the ricin cigarette? How is that even possible to strategically accomplish? Picking out the weedbag was completely believable, but the ricin cigarette?


Remember Jesse had the ricin cigarette flipped up so he'd no he wouldn't smoke it. Walt also knew that so he could have fed that information to Saul. Lifting the cigarettes isn't hard putting them back in though my be the plot hole.
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