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Old 07-01-2012, 06:36 AM   #76
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All teams don't have multi billionaire owners. The Jazz had to take out a loan to pay the 10 million dollar signing bonus that Portland put in Millsap's offer sheet.

The Jazz have more salaries on the books than Portland right now. Even if you would include Hibbert.

So that renders your argument completely moot. They do have money to burn, and they do it at a rate higher than even Portland with their billionaire owner.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:49 AM   #77
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More consistent scorer, better passer, more efficient all around player. I'd say they are pretty equal rebounders and defenders at this point but Gasol is such a better passer and scorer that yes it becomes "clearly". Gasol is also a lights out free throw shooter for a center which is a very big bonus (yes I'm aware Hibbert is solid there).
Their TS% was .3% in Gasol's favor. Gasol's assist rate is surprisingly much higher, so I guess I have no argument there, but Hibbert's no slouch. The defensive rating's not close though, Hibbert is very much a better defensive player than Gasol. And they're probably both going to wind up with very similar contracts. Nevermind that when Gasol signed his big deal he put up remarkably similar (REALLY similar) #s to Hibbert.

I'm not arguing that given his impact he's overpaid. That's the name of the game, be tall, get money. But people acting like it's ludicrous when two teams (Portland and probably Houston), both of which are known to be fairly shrewd and intelligent, is just dumb.

And it's not comparable to Millsap. Millsap was in the division and had no other offer that approached his Portland offer sheet (far as I know). They frontloaded it specifically trying to put Utah in a bind and now Utah's got Millsap on a great cap friendly deal.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:05 AM   #78
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This deal sets a terrible precedent for McGee, Lopez twins, & Kaman.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:16 AM   #79
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Sam Amick: Indiana did not offer a max deal, and Hibbert is now leaning to Blazers unless Pacers match. One other unnamed team offered max. Twitter
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:26 AM   #80
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When will it be my turn for a max contract
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:14 AM   #81
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That's ****ing pathetic
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:20 AM   #82
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Not a fan of offering Hibbert a max contract - like him as a player and I realize that the only way we're going to get him away from the Pacers is to pay him max money, I really don't think that it's a good idea.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:33 AM   #83
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Wow, if this is true and Indiana matches it, they're going to get raped for money. he's a good center at all, but no where near a max deal. his numbers were barely better than Anderson f*cking Varejao before Wild Thing got injured.
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Wow... So as expected, GMs learnt nothing from the lockout and are still handing out idiotic contracts
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:43 AM   #85
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I don't really get why everyone's surprised. Yeah, it's a disgusting amount of money and your team would ideally spend it more evenly across the team, but that's the going rate for an all-star centre. I'm fine with it.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:45 AM   #86
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In a world where Tyson Chandler and DeAndre Jordan got the deals they got last year...this is a relative bargain.
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Can a team w hibbert as its best player win a championship?

This is crazy... I agree centers are rare but you need think about the salary cap. Indiana is not going to pay the new luxury tax and you have one guy taking up 1/4th of the cap? They should let him walk
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Bird new this was coming....Smart man
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Portland is douchey.

They did this shit with Wes Matthews.

It puts Indy and Hibbert in an odd position.

If Hibbert wasn't a cool guy I'd say let him go and let Portland continue to fade into obscurity.

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Sam Amick: Indiana did not offer a max deal, and Hibbert is now leaning to Blazers unless Pacers match. One other unnamed team offered max. Twitter

Latest is Indy will up their offer.
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