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Old 07-01-2012, 11:23 AM   #91
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Makes me extremely scared for what teams will offer McGee. Really hope Asik, Hibbert drain some teams pockets so he doesn't end up getting a retarded offer.

Offers like this put teams in such a bad spot. The NBA market is such trash. If INDY doesn't match they don't get better. Their trying to build something. How can you not match? Sure you'd save money but you'd be walking away from the goal of winning games. Not matching Hibbert isn't really going to do much longterm. Give you extra cash for FA you probably won't sign.

Your either forced with overpaying somebody to get better or letting them walk and regressing or not improving.
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:24 AM   #92
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he hasn't really improved as a pro very much.

Really? You're going to stand by that statement?
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:00 PM   #93
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I mean, that's just what is going to happen with centers man. They are in high demand to be at the level Roy Hibbert is. He may not even be a top 30 player in the NBA but he is probably a top 3 center and teams need centers, badly.
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:22 PM   #94
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For all you posters saying the market dictates that centers get over payed do you no realize that these idiot GM's are the market? If they would make offers with a bit of sense and more performance based incentives there wouldn't be a lockout in the first place. As a GM you should consider if at any time during his contract your player will be making more than Lebron James then it's a bad contract. That being said I don't know what the max means if we're talking 17 million then but if it's in the 12-13 million dollar range then that's completely reasonable.
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:29 PM   #95
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For all you posters saying the market dictates that centers get over payed do you no realize that these idiot GM's are the market? If they would make offers with a bit of sense and more performance based incentives there wouldn't be a lockout in the first place. As a GM you should consider if at any time during his contract your player will be making more than Lebron James then it's a bad contract. That being said I don't know what the max means if we're talking 17 million then but if it's in the 12-13 million dollar range then that's completely reasonable.

No kidding. I like how the owners bitch about parity and then you see them pay role players like they're superstars. In theory it's nice to blame the system, but reality says it's the fault of the owners.
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:48 PM   #96
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Wow. I thought Nene and Chandler were overpayed.
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:32 PM   #97
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RFA Roy Hibbert's four-year, max offer sheet from Portland is worth $58.4M. Pacers center leaning that way. Indy has three days to match.



Hibbert's knees hurt just thinking about that offer.
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:35 PM   #98
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Ooooh, only 3 days to match? It used to be 7 didn't it? Part of the new CBA?

I like it.
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:46 PM   #99
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Indiana will match, but I don't wanna hear any crap about how big market teams screw small market teams considering Portland come up with the outlandish offer here.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:21 PM   #100
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While it is a horrible offer for both Portland and Indy, it is one thing that he is 25 years old and not 29 like Joe Johnson was offered.

I can already tell I don't like Portland's GM
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:32 PM   #101
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Lebowski (or anyone else really),

Can you estimate what our cap space would be if we match as well as if we don't match?
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:33 PM   #102
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Shelden Williams and Ronny Turiaf 'bout to get 4 year/$40 million deals somewhere.
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:34 PM   #103
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Can only imagine what McGee, Asik, etc will get

McGee should get less since he's not as good as hibbert
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Old 07-01-2012, 02:57 PM   #104
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RFA Roy Hibbert's four-year, max offer sheet from Portland is worth $58.4M. Pacers center leaning that way. Indy has three days to match.
Are people really laughing at this offer? The league have absolutely no decent centers, a 36 year old PF is still one of the best bigs in the game.

Context is everything, $14.6 mil per year for Hibbert sounds about right. Indiana should offer him a 5 year contract at a lower yearly average, that extra year will make Hibbert sign.
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:03 PM   #105
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I think it's also to mess with Indiana's cap space. That's great if you can get Hibbert but realistically, Indy will want to match.

Since the Blazers have no shot at any major free agent, they must deny other teams as much cap space as possible.

We did this to Utah w/ Wes Mathews.

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