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Old 07-07-2012, 08:57 AM   #91
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The bottom line is........ until you admit that having two of the top 5 highest paid players in the game is a mistake, there is no use crying about who they fill the roster with.

And one of them is totally useless.

The other teams that acquire marquee players....have marquee players.

Let's be real about it... Nash didn't come because Nash didn't like the roster, and he surely wouldn't have enjoyed watching our only wing defender being traded for him.

Kobe at this stage is still better than Melo

Pau is light years better than Amare

Bynum is better than Tyson.

Too easy of a choice, plus they only gave up draft picks, which if they win it all, who really cares?

The Lakers always get the best because they will.....pull the trigger.

They had Chris Paul because they were willing to drop off Pau, the league killed a done deal.

The Knicks need to get on the phone and get Dwight, plain and simple, and anyone should be available for such including Melo.

If you're a fan of the team, then it shouldn't matter.

If the team is gonna pay top 5 player money to two guys, and they don't play like such, then a fire needs to be lit up under them, and putting them on the trade block will light that fire.

The bottom line is it doesn't make sense to continue to whine about what the team is doing if you won't address the root.

Using Miami is the worst example ever.

Miami has the best player in the game, and a top 5 player, and those guys helped their team by taking less money to sign those guys that you guys want.

Plus they have a line of drafted players in compliment.....

Wade, Cole, Chalmers, Pittman, and Haslem....1/3 of their roster.

I have absolutely no issue trading anyone on this team to put it in better position to win it all, but unfortunately that can't happen in New York.
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:28 PM   #92
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This has to be the absolute last chance for this roster. If they come out and lay an egg to start the season I fully excpect somebody to be gone by the trade deadline. Right now the odd man out looks like Amar'e...but you never know. He could step up and someone else could do bad. All I know is if we struggle to be over .500 again with this team we need to identify who the problem is and get rid of them.
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:37 PM   #93
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I give them the entire season.

Division title...not good enough

5th seed...not good enough

The Knicks had better be battling Miami down there in South Beach in a game 7 in the ECF.

When you're whole salary cap is tied into three players, that should be the expectation every single season.
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:39 PM   #94
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Theres only one LeBron James. We cant get him. Theres only one KD. We cant get him. I feel we have the next best thing, so no, I dont see a problem with paying Melo accordingly. I also dont feel Paul is light years ahead of Amare. N once again, I was NEVER on board for the Chandler acquisition. Either way, Grunwald acquired him, so how is he exempt from blame? N is thats how you handle adversity? Youre ok with our GM, who gets paid handsomely Im sure, just saying F it...sign whoever? N I gave you options. So it was more than possible. There are still guys out there. Funny you complain about money but none of the things we are doing are cost effective. Kidd is about to be overpaid, so obviously, we had money somewhere.
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:48 PM   #95
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Whose the 2nd player? The only draftee we have is Shumpert.
Douglas, Harrelson

And we would have another draftee is somebody didnt decide to use it on a guy who may never play for us.
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Douglas, Harrelson

And we would have another draftee is somebody didnt decide to use it on a guy who may never play for us.
we didn't draft them, we bought them.
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:57 PM   #97
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Theres only one LeBron James. We cant get him. Theres only one KD. We cant get him. I feel we have the next best thing, so no, I dont see a problem with paying Melo accordingly. I also dont feel Paul is light years ahead of Amare. N once again, I was NEVER on board for the Chandler acquisition. Either way, Grunwald acquired him, so how is he exempt from blame? N is thats how you handle adversity? Youre ok with our GM, who gets paid handsomely Im sure, just saying F it...sign whoever? N I gave you options. So it was more than possible. There are still guys out there. Funny you complain about money but none of the things we are doing are cost effective. Kidd is about to be overpaid, so obviously, we had money somewhere.
The things is, I'm not complaining at all.

I'm content with the team, and the pieces they are adding, but I do want them to attempt to make that bold move that all other champions do.

But I will not be content if we flop again.

It's a damn shame that a top 2-3 SF, Top 5 PF, and a DPOY can't win more than one playoff game, and had to rely on an unknown in Lin and A rookie to help them win games, and get there in the first place.

The Knicks are a scared franchise, why, I have no idea.

They never make, or even attempt to make that "next step" move.

They need to make it known they have interest in Dwight Howard, because if he goes to the Nets, they will be better.

Even the Nets of all teams made a bold move by trading for Deron who opted out, and he is on record saying he would have left if they didn't trade for Joe Johnson, another bold move.

The goal should be championships, not first round flops.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:59 PM   #98
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Watchin summer league right now. Felton looks pretty slimmed down. Even Mike Breens hatin azz pointed it out. Amare looks really thin too. Almost too thin. Anyone else watchin this?
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Watchin summer league right now. Felton looks pretty slimmed down. Even Mike Breens hatin azz pointed it out. Amare looks really thin too. Almost too thin. Anyone else watchin this?
I just posted this in the Summer League thread
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pablo prigioni stats vs usa

8 points/ 6 assists/ 5 boards
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Prigioni >>>> Lin

He looked pretty solid,he's definitely a great player to have as your 3rd point guard. Just remember that Douglas and Bibby started some games last year and this season we have a guy that's better than them as our 3rd PG.

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Prigioni >>>> Lin

He looked pretty solid,he's definitely a great player to have as your 3rd point guard. Just remember that Douglas and Bibby started some games last year and this season we have a guy that's better than them as our 3rd PG.

That's not saying much

In all seriousness though, I think we should be trying to move Jason Kidd as soon as possible. I think there is a 3 month window or something to trade newly acquired players (or Dec 15th whichever is later). He needs to go. That was our worst move of the summer. That 3+ million dollars could be very useful. Trade him for anything. decent sg. Draft pick. Cash...whatever

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That's not saying much

In all seriousness though, I think we should be trying to move Jason Kidd as soon as possible. I think there is a 3 month window or something to trade newly acquired players (or Dec 15th whichever is later). He needs to go. That was our worst move of the summer. That 3+ million dollars could be very useful. Trade him for anything. decent sg. Draft pick. Cash...whatever
Y u say that?
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Jason Kidd for Telfair works.

Maybe we can get a pick as well.
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