And, as a former winner, Simpson still votes in Heisman elections. He traditionally has relayed his ballot from prison whenever
necessary, even as he waited in jail while facing homocide charges.
Not that Manziel isn't deserving, because he is, but I thought if there ever might be a year a defensive player (a player who plays defense only) could break through and win it, this would be it. Again, no problem with Manziel winning, but the Heisman really is the "Most Outstanding Offensive Player" more so than it is most outstanding player. I guess that's been the case for a long time, though.
Scary thing is, I'm not sure Manziel is a surefire NFL QB, so I think he's a four year player. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he won it again. He's really, really good, and plays in offense that lends itself to insane numbers by a dual threat QB with his talent.
Not that Manziel isn't deserving, because he is, but I thought if there ever might be a year a defensive player (a player who plays defense only) could break through and win it, this would be it. Again, no problem with Manziel winning, but the Heisman really is the "Most Outstanding Offensive Player" more so than it is most outstanding player. I guess that's been the case for a long time, though.
Scary thing is, I'm not sure Manziel is a surefire NFL QB, so I think he's a four year player. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he won it again. He's really, really good, and plays in offense that lends itself to insane numbers by a dual threat QB with his talent.
Manti Teo rode the Notre Dame hype to the heisman trophy presentation.
And his gf/grandma dying in the same day helped too. Heisman isn't a citizen's award. It's a best CFB player award.
Johnny Manziel will be in the NFL...I can agree about your QB sentiment but the dude can play football. Louisiana Tech recovered a fumble and ran it almost all the way back for a touchdown. Who chased him down? Johnny Manziel. He forced a fumble...a fellow LA tech recovered it and then Johnny tackled him down.
The play was ruled dead and the fumble never counted but still...he is Johnny Fucking Football for a reason.
Manti Teo rode the Notre Dame hype to the heisman trophy presentation.
And his gf/grandma dying in the same day helped too. Heisman isn't a citizen's award. It's a best CFB player award.
Johnny Manziel will be in the NFL...I can agree about your QB sentiment but the dude can play football. Louisiana Tech recovered a fumble and ran it almost all the way back for a touchdown. Who chased him down? Johnny Manziel. He forced a fumble...a fellow LA tech recovered it and then Johnny tackled him down.
The play was ruled dead and the fumble never counted but still...he is Johnny Fucking Football for a reason.
Youc an say almost every Heisman finalist rode some sort of "hype" to the trophy presentation. Te'o anchored one of the best defenses in the nation who was also #1 and the only undefeated team in the country.
I don't give two shits about what Dat Nguyen did in 1998. He was a great player, and probably deserved more Heisman consideration, but that has nothing to do with 2012 and Manti Te'o.
And I didn't say Manziel wouldn't play in the NFL. I'm just not sure he's a surefire QB in the sense that he'll probably leave after next year or his junior year. He just feels like a four year player. I'm not denying his athleticism or how good he was, either.
We'd be Big 12 champs playing Alabama in the BCS National Championship game.
That's cool. So A&M played all the Big 12 teams this year in secret scrimmages or something and you know, with certainty, they'd have finished with one loss or ran the table and gone undefeated?
Youc an say almost every Heisman finalist rode some sort of "hype" to the trophy presentation. Te'o anchored one of the best defenses in the nation who was also #1 and the only undefeated team in the country.
I don't give two shits about what Dat Nguyen did in 1998. He was a great player, and probably deserved more Heisman consideration, but that has nothing to do with 2012 and Manti Te'o.
And I didn't say Manziel wouldn't play in the NFL. I'm just not sure he's a surefire QB in the sense that he'll probably leave after next year or his junior year. He just feels like a four year player. I'm not denying his athleticism or how good he was, either.
Just saying that "this" is the year a defensive player should win it is wrong. Teo wasn't the best playing in CFB.
Either way...Johnny Footbal is the Heisman Trophy win and is by far the most deserving player this year.
Can't wait for him to light up OU and the rest of the SEC next year.
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