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Old 07-26-2012, 08:27 PM   #16
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Default Re: Mitt Romney interview: "Stop attacking success"

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Yeah, because Americans have a God given right to those jobs and other countries don't deserve them.

I'm pretty sure most people are concerned about his hypocrisy. He chose his money over Americans and their jobs, while claiming we need to bring jobs back.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:36 PM   #17
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I get that Romney is being attacked for hypocrisy and why he is being attacked for it but I don't get why outsourcing (or offshoring) gets villified all the time. It's just part of the evolution of the economy.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:40 PM   #18
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I get that Romney is being attacked for hypocrisy and why he is being attacked for it but I don't get why outsourcing (or offshoring) gets villified all the time. It's just part of the evolution of the economy.


IDGAF about the world economy.

I care about OUR economy.

It does not help the US population at large to continuously ship away well paying jobs just so some exec can make a slightly larger bonus off cheaper labor.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:43 PM   #19
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Romney has no swagger, next!
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:46 PM   #20
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Default Re: Mitt Romney interview: "Stop attacking success"

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I get that Romney is being attacked for hypocrisy and why he is being attacked for it but I don't get why outsourcing (or offshoring) gets villified all the time. It's just part of the evolution of the economy.


Just like we don't allow companies to sell their goods in our country without tariffs, we shouldn't allow American companies to ship jobs overseas, then bring the products back here to sell to our populace. If our labor force has to compete against virtual slave labor overseas without any sort of protection, then there will be no jobs here in America at all.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:48 PM   #21
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IDGAF about the world economy.

I care about OUR economy.

It does not help the US population at large to continuously ship away well paying jobs just so some exec can make a slightly larger bonus off cheaper labor.

It's called a business dude. If it improves profits, why not do it? They're might already be many costs incurred in the states that could be avoided by going out of state.

And it doesn't matter if you care about "OUR" economy. OUR economy is greatly involved in the world economy.

Levying fines on countries for outsourcing? What the hell is this country coming too? Maybe Romney isn't so wrong after all when talking about "Attacking success." (Dude is a moron. Don't get me wrong.)

If you think about it, failure is rewarded in this country by the government while successful people have to pay for the mistakes of others. I can accept that it's the way it is but Romney does have some truth to that statement.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:50 PM   #22
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Just like we don't allow companies to sell their goods in our country without tariffs, we shouldn't allow American companies to ship jobs overseas, then bring the products back here to sell to our populace. If our labor force has to compete against virtual slave labor overseas without any sort of protection, then there will be no jobs here in America at all.

Move to Texas. Move to North Dakota. There are jobs there.

Bring the jobs here and people will still bitch about something.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:51 PM   #23
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It's called a business dude. If it improves profits, why not do it? They're might already be many costs incurred in the states that could be avoided by going out of state.

And it doesn't matter if you care about "OUR" economy. OUR economy is greatly involved in the world economy.

Levying fines on countries for outsourcing? What the hell is this country coming too? Maybe Romney isn't so wrong after all when talking about "Attacking success." (Dude is a moron. Don't get me wrong.)

If you think about it, failure is rewarded in this country by the government while successful people have to pay for the mistakes of others. I can accept that it's the way it is but Romney does have some truth to that statement.

Which is all well and fine. However it is in the interest of our population to do so. Therefore the candidate who would levy higher fines would be the proper one.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:54 PM   #24
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Which is all well and fine. However it is in the interest of our population to do so. Therefore the candidate who would levy higher fines would be the proper one.

Or not. Everything the government gets involved in fails. See: educational loans from the government.
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Move to Texas. Move to North Dakota. There are jobs there.

I have a job.

And if everyone that was unemployed took your advice, and moved to the Dakotas or Texas, those jobs would dry up very fast.




In order to have an even balance of trade, you need to be able to ship products to other countries, and not just import everything. When America had a strong manufacturing base, we used to export more than we imported. Now because of outsourcing, it's completely opposite. Nothing is made here. We just import it all.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:58 PM   #26
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It's called a business dude. If it improves profits, why not do it? They're might already be many costs incurred in the states that could be avoided by going out of state.

And it doesn't matter if you care about "OUR" economy. OUR economy is greatly involved in the world economy.

Levying fines on countries for outsourcing? What the hell is this country coming too? Maybe Romney isn't so wrong after all when talking about "Attacking success." (Dude is a moron. Don't get me wrong.)

If you think about it, failure is rewarded in this country by the government while successful people have to pay for the mistakes of others. I can accept that it's the way it is but Romney does have some truth to that statement.


What's this world coming to? Do you think China, Japan, or Korea allow US companies to sell American made products in their country without huge tariffs, or penalties?

It's called evening the playing field.
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I have a job.

And if everyone that was unemployed took your advice, and moved to the Dakotas or Texas, those jobs would dry up very fast.




In order to have an even balance of trade, you need to be able to ship products to other countries, and not just import everything. When America had a strong manufacturing base, we used to export more than we imported. Now because of outsourcing, it's completely opposite. Nothing is made here. We just import it all.

That was back when other countries weren't as well developed. Global economy changes. Just the way it is.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:03 PM   #28
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What's this world coming to? Do you think China, Japan, or Korea allow US companies to sell American made products in their country without huge tariffs, or penalties?

It's called evening the playing field.

I'm sure corporations are smart enough to figure out how to "even the playing field."
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:04 PM   #29
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It's called a business dude. If it improves profits, why not do it? They're might already be many costs incurred in the states that could be avoided by going out of state.

And it doesn't matter if you care about "OUR" economy. OUR economy is greatly involved in the world economy.

Levying fines on countries for outsourcing? What the hell is this country coming too? Maybe Romney isn't so wrong after all when talking about "Attacking success." (Dude is a moron. Don't get me wrong.)

If you think about it, failure is rewarded in this country by the government while successful people have to pay for the mistakes of others. I can accept that it's the way it is but Romney does have some truth to that statement.


what happens when all those high paying jobs leave and nothing replaces them?

oh yea, massive under/unemployment.

you should not go for higher profits just because you can get them.

you need to think about how shuttering a plant affects the communities, businesses, and people reliant on them.

Kill a car plant and you have hundreds out of work, which means they can't spend nearly as much money in the area they live, which means other businesses suffer and fail, which puts an even greater strain on the community to function, not to mention the lost taxes we need to keeps our infrastructure up and running.

So yea, I may be able to make an extra profit on top of my already profitable business returns if I ship it away but is that really the right thing to do?

I say no and anyone shipping jobs away is bad for the country. Its a privilege to live here. We shouldn't drain it dry like a vampire does to an unfortunate victim.



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Or not. Everything the government gets involved in fails. See: educational loans from the government.


completely bullshit falsehood

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I'm sure corporations are smart enough to figure out how to "even the playing field."
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