First off, Iron Man can come to the game cloaked and invisible. The Iron Man 2.0 armor he created for War Machine a while back had intangibility and invisibility capabilities that will be used in a fight vs. Flash and he will know the setting (which is a place he is already familiar with). Right off the bat, Flash will have to an invisible flying opponent in an unfamiliar place.
Also, Iron Man has tailor made suits dozens of time before and I'm sure he will have a plan for Flash. I will post a better arguments after work but prep gives Iron Man a very compelling case to win the majority over Flash.
There is at least an argument to be made for tony. Maestro is basically immune to telepathic attacks since he's the hulk and he can just kill them physically. He's also smarter than they are so prep helps him more
I want to know how Reed defeats Mongul before I argue. Last match i didn't even know how Talisman lost, simply that Nova is fast so he has to win.
I drafted Talisman once too.. unfortunately there isn't enough on the character to back it up. And the time travel/dimension travel has never been allowed in the drafts. Too many other people that have more scans of consistently defeating certain types of characters... Unfortunately this will be your problem with Talisman for most of the match-ups unless you get some good spots.
the way flash has been used in previous drafts, he'd speed blitz his opponents from the get go. if iron man chooses to go invisible, he will only delay the inevitable. flash will search through the entire battle field within a minute and will be able to detect iron man through vibrations. and i haven't heard bout his suit going intagible, but if he does, flash can as well. if flash goes through him it'd screw up his molecules and get destroyed.
HeyHey: Cable Vs. Anti Hero: Despero ZeN: Dr. Doom (prep) Vs. EnoughSaid: Shadow King TimmyD: Mr. Fantastic (prep) Vs. Loneshot: Mongol MagicC: Flash Vs. Jailblazers: Iron Man (prep) El Kabong: Jean/Cyclops (prep) Vs. Raiderfan: Maestro (prep)
i would normally give it to a prepped reed and stark, but there isn't much technology in Asgard for them to take advantage of here, and they don't know magic. wasted preps on both. OTOH, Doom IS well versed in magic so he will do fine in Asgard.
There should be enough tech on Asgard to work with. Reed isn't familiar with magic but I'm sure given enough prep time he can get familiar enough with the objects and materials provided to him on that plane.
This doesn't also include the fact that he is a master tactician, and psychological profiler. He can defeat Mongul in Asgard, there will be enough for him to work with. Even if it's just picking up one of the mystical weapons they have there and figuring out the best plan to execute it.
With the prep Reed gets samples of his DNA, his profile, and everything.
This is the man that Onslaught admitted would have toppled him had he been given time. That man that defeats the Black Celestial (I think? I know he does take out some celestials and fights the Black Celestial through time. I forget). He's defeated Magneto, Dr. Doom and other foes that are more formidable than Mongul. He has nullified Hulk. HULK.
There is no blitzing a prepped Reed and time is his advantage not Mongul's. One could ask: "How is Reed gonna harm *insert name here*" and yet he comes out on top.
Maybe something as simple as forcing Mongul to lose the will to fight:
I think mongul should win but I also don't think Reed is nearly as good in individual matchups as most of you. I generally would lump Reed in with batman/black panther as great prep guys for team battles who shouldn't be drafted until the 9th or 10th round and generally shouldn't be used in individual matchups(I know he has a big physical advantage on batman I'm not sayin they are the same, just comparable)
Last edited by raiderfan19 : 07-31-2012 at 05:29 PM.