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Old 07-30-2012, 04:32 AM   #91
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Lobo's bike is capable of flight at speeds that are sufficient enough to nullify any extreme advantage for Firelord.

But it would be a moot point regardless. How is he going to damage Lobo? You already admitted he can't take him physically so if Lobo is resistant to his heat then it's a stomping.

Lobo once fought a guy where they both grabbed world shattering nuclear weapons and threw them at each other.

Lobo walked out with his opponents head on a stick.

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Old 07-30-2012, 04:41 AM   #92
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Physically as in straight up punching him with nothing behind it. Firelord is bring sun-level types of heat behind his attacks.

What good is Lobo's bike if Firelord isn't running away; he's using that speed to attack.

And this is all just Firelord attacking Lobo, but when Lobo attacks Firelord he isn't KOing him for the good, as Firelord can take a hit. This is a being who has taken hits from Thor and Surfer and got up to continue the fight.
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:57 AM   #93
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Physically as in straight up punching him with nothing behind it. Firelord is bring sun-level types of heat behind his attacks.

What good is Lobo's bike if Firelord isn't running away; he's using that speed to attack.

And this is all just Firelord attacking Lobo, but when Lobo attacks Firelord he isn't KOing him for the good, as Firelord can take a hit. This is a being who has taken hits from Thor and Surfer and got up to continue the fight.

I wouldn't expect FL to run away. But his speed is not going to add any advantage.

And he would KO FL because it's going to be different fighting Lobo. Lobo has no barrier like Surfer and Thor. He is vicious. Far more ferocious than either Thor or Surfer, which means he will not be punching someone to stop them but to kill them. His insanity becomes an advantage here.

And if you want to talk about taking hits, Lobo rumbles with the likes of Supes. In fact he's taken his heat vision without even stumbling. Notice the bottom left panel:

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As the fight drags on it becomes harder and harder to even begin to defeat him for FL. Lobo is a genius, and a skilled fighter. His regeneration factor is too great. Lobo is relentless, vicious, too strong, and too good for FL to take him down. He just doesn't have enough.
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Loki by way of none of them having any magical resistance or honestly posing any threat. And yeah I do still have your numbers ah sorry I was late.
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:18 AM   #95
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Loki by way of none of them having any magical resistance or honestly posing any threat. And yeah I do still have your numbers ah sorry I was late.
One on one they might not pose a threat, but considering Professor X is one of the most powerful telepaths on the planet and he has a power radius of 250 miles means he doesn't even need to be in the area to be effective against Loki. If he is near Loki he can use his telepathic cloak to make himself invisible. Add his psilink and he's gonna be locked in with Colossus and Shadowcat the entire battle, and they'd work as a team and be able to read Loki's mind to know each move he's doing. X can use his Psi shield to block any of Loki's telepathic attacks while blasting him with his own psi attacks.

While this is happening it allows Colossus and Shadowcat to go in for the physical attacks, so Loki is now dealing with a physical and mental attack from every angle.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:56 AM   #96
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I thought this one could have been interesting considering Colossus could be argued to have a certain power set.. Going up against Loki (prepped) tho.. Makes me disappoint.
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I thought this one could have been interesting considering Colossus could be argued to have a certain power set.. Going up against Loki (prepped) tho.. Makes me disappoint.
What's that? Hulk out on him like in the Avengers and just smash the shit outta him.
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What's that? Jugg out on him like in the Avengers and just smash the shit outta him.

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But even then how will he smash an opponent that sees it coming and he has prepared for that rampage?
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:46 AM   #99
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But even then how will he smash an opponent that sees it coming and he has prepared for that rampage?
Prep doesn't matter when you've got Professor X messing with your mind the entire battle.

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Colossus and Shadowcat start immediately as the pyhsical diversion for Loki while Prof X. goes to work on Loki's mind. Colossus has a high enough durability level to take a pounding from Loki, so he can still be standing by the time X's powers begin to take effect.

EDIT: Loki may be prepped, but is he's only prepped for Prof X? If he doesn't know the trump is coming then his entire battle plan goes out the window once Colossus and Shadowcat turn up to the battle.

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Old 07-30-2012, 09:49 AM   #100
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edit: i'm gonna try asking them to fix it by tonight, i'm not supposed to be doing this stuff at work

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Old 07-30-2012, 10:31 AM   #101
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That sucks Magic..

And Sentinel deserves some argument.. BRB isnt prepped and doesn't have the type of shields Scott has (GL/Starheart). It can protect from stormbreaker. Both hold earth shattering power but Sentinel has more experience and in battle intellect. He can shield and KO cause hes fast, being able to keep up with The Flash.
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That sucks Magic..

And Sentinel deserves some argument.. BRB isnt prepped and doesn't have the type of shields Scott has (GL/Starheart). It can protect from stormbreaker. Both hold earth shattering power but Sentinel has more experience and in battle intellect. He can shield and KO cause hes fast, being able to keep up with The Flash.

well if nobody's around in my back maybe i can play around a little bit but yeah, i need to have the internet at home fixed.

back on the match:

what zen said about experience, sentinel has complete control of his powers while brb doesnt know everything about his hammer. sentinel will be able to counter anything brb throws at him.

perhaps the biggest difference between BRB and thor is that BRB's hammer doesnt have the magical properties thor's have

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While Stormbreaker is quite similar to Mjolnir, it is unable perform abilities innate to Thor's unique heritage, such as the God Blast, Warrior's Madness, and Rune Magic. Although stormbreaker can, in theory, perform most of the other abilities mjolnir has displayed(magnetism, anti-matter creation, anti-force,etc.), Stormbreaker has not demonstrated some of the finer and less often seen abilities with his hammer that Thor has.

controlling magic is what sets sentinel apart from the other green lanterns.

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Old 07-30-2012, 11:59 AM   #103
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The fight being in Asgard gives Bill a bit of a home court advantage. BRB is also super durable, arugably the most durable in this draft. He has fought and beaten Thor, SS (altho Surfer whooped his ass before too), other heralds, etc. He even cracked Galactus' head open before with a hammer blow and can destroy planets. He's got a ton of fighting experience so there really isn't much of a tactical edge for Alan if any.

Also, BRB knows plenty about his hammer. He has used it before to absorb and redirect energy attacks before and the fact that it is Asgaardian made means that it should be a good tool to use against the Starheart energies.

I think Bill eventually wears him down and wins.
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Why would Loki only know about prof x??? He's prepped, he knows about all 3. And Loki has psychic abilities of his own. Honestly he just needs to make a double of himself/cloak himself for an instant push prof x down the stairs
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Why would Loki only know about prof x??? He's prepped, he knows about all 3. And Loki has psychic abilities of his own. Honestly he just needs to make a double of himself/cloak himself for an instant push prof x down the stairs
He can cloak/double himself all he wants, but Prof X. is still gonna know about it. Plus he has to get through Colossus and Shadowcat before he can get near X, and once again X is going to be telepathically linked to them during battle, so they'll know about the cloak/double. He's got his own double/cloaking abilities also, so the same rules apply. Loki goes for the X double, Colossus/Shadow attack while Ki is attacking thin air.
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