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Old 07-31-2012, 03:27 PM   #76
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Kareem: defense is a suspect for a big men hence no DPOY trophies



tim duncan has no dpoty trophies either... hes one of the goat defenders

and you just showed how much you know about basketball

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say it again


"kareem abdul jabbars defense was SUSPECT"






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Old 07-31-2012, 03:38 PM   #77
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the rivalry between Magic and Bird actually "transcended" the sport more then any basketball player/players ever.

It started in college during the Final Four....and peaked in the NBA (very unique)

The Rivalry took Basketball to the masses and had many media friendly attributes.

"Black vs White"

"Style vs Substance"

"East coast vs West Coast"

" Lakers vs Celtics"

"Magic vs Larry...who was better"

unless you lived through that era...you don't really have a clear understanding how much that rivalry impacted sports/basketball/race.

That rivalry trancended Basketball/sports and ushered in a whole new generation of fans....the rivalry brought Race relations/and sports together again into the forefront of 2 surging athletes into superstardom...

Legend and Magic built the table...layed down the table Cloth....and served a 3 course meal.....MJ served dessert...(wich just so happens to be everyones favorite)




the bolded is actually a great analogy alpha
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:43 PM   #78
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Default Re: Is Michael Jordan the unanimous G.O.A.T on ISH?

There is lot of trolling going on.

We are talking about GOAT

fact: Btw Hakeem & Kareem defensively: Hakeem wins

Fact: Btw Kareem & Russell defensively: Russell wins

Fact: Btw Kareem & Wilt Offensively: Wilt wins

enuf said.

Fact: btw MJ & any Guard defensively: MJ wins

Fact: btw MJ & any guard offensively: MJ wins

MJ >>>> Kareem for GOAT

MJ >>>> Russell for GOAT

MJ had it all. Russell was lacking some where. Kareem was lacking somewhere.

Next....
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:46 PM   #79
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Default Re: Is Michael Jordan the unanimous G.O.A.T on ISH?

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There is lot of trolling going on.

We are talking about GOAT

fact: Btw Hakeem & jordan defensively: Hakeem wins

Fact: Btw jordan & Russell defensively: Russell wins

Fact: Btw jordan & Wilt Offensively: Wilt wins

enuf said.

Fact: btw MJ & any Guard defensively: MJ wins ( so? theres better F's and C's)

Fact: btw MJ & any guard offensively: MJ wins ( ditto )

MJ = Kareem for GOAT

MJ = Russell for GOAT

MJ had it all.... so did kareem... Russell was lacking some where. Kareem wasnt lacking somewhere.

Next....?


fixed



just because jordan matched up with the guards well doesnt mean you cant match his impact with bigs too... jordan loses those same matchups that kareem loses
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:52 PM   #80
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i dont even know why i'm talking to this gengiskan guy

he said kareems defense was "suspect" LOL


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Old 07-31-2012, 03:53 PM   #81
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Michael Jordan being labeled GOAT is mostly due to Nike and Gatorade marketing. No player prior was marketed like Michael was. No player since Michael has been so vehemently defended from flaws in their game to off-court behavior as he was.
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:57 PM   #82
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There is lot of trolling going on.

lol
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:08 PM   #83
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Michael Jordan being labeled GOAT is mostly due to Nike and Gatorade marketing. No player prior was marketed like Michael was. No player since Michael has been so vehemently defended from flaws in their game to off-court behavior as he was.

No Jordan is Labeled GOAT because he has the most
well rounded case for it. He reached a skill level only
few others in the history have. He has the accolade resume
to back it. 6 for 6 in the finals with two 3peats.
6 Fmvps. 5 Mvps. We could go on and on.
Jordan deserves GOAT. He killed peoples careers for it. Literally.
All that hype and he backed it up. What else do you want?
There's only one person who has a shot for a case to be as well
rounded (Kobe) but he still has an uphill battle to climb.
Lebron might have a respectable shot depending if he
flips this one ring into a quick 3peat of his own. Plus more.
Jordan GOAT.
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:16 PM   #84
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the rivalry between Magic and Bird actually "transcended" the sport more then any basketball player/players ever.

It started in college during the Final Four....and peaked in the NBA (very unique)

The Rivalry took Basketball to the masses and had many media friendly attributes.

"Black vs White"

"Style vs Substance"

"East coast vs West Coast"

" Lakers vs Celtics"

"Magic vs Larry...who was better"

unless you lived through that era...you don't really have a clear understanding how much that rivalry impacted sports/basketball/race.

That rivalry trancended Basketball/sports and ushered in a whole new generation of fans....the rivalry brought Race relations/and sports together again into the forefront of 2 surging athletes into superstardom...

Legend and Magic built the table...layed down the table Cloth....and served a 3 course meal.....MJ served dessert...(wich just so happens to be everyones favorite)



Don't disagree with the Magic/Bird discription but if Jordan is dessert, then Kobe is a snack

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Old 07-31-2012, 04:19 PM   #85
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Don't disagree with the Magic/Bird discription but if Jordan is dessert, then Kobe is a snack
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:35 PM   #86
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No Jordan is Labeled GOAT because he has the most
well rounded case for it. He reached a skill level only
few others in the history have. He has the accolade resume
to back it. 6 for 6 in the finals with two 3peats.
6 Fmvps. 5 Mvps. We could go on and on.
Jordan deserves GOAT. He killed peoples careers for it. Literally.
All that hype and he backed it up. What else do you want?
There's only one person who has a shot for a case to be as well
rounded (Kobe) but he still has an uphill battle to climb.
Lebron might have a respectable shot depending if he
flips this one ring into a quick 3peat of his own. Plus more.
Jordan GOAT.
Kareem>jordan. His impact was much greater and immediate. His longevity is unsurpassed as was his knowledge of the game. Half of Kareems career was in the finals, where he won six times.
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:16 PM   #87
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Michael Jordan being labeled GOAT is mostly due to Nike and Gatorade marketing. No player prior was marketed like Michael was. No player since Michael has been so vehemently defended from flaws in their game to off-court behavior as he was.
Why do people continue to spout this foolishness? Nike and Gartorade werent shit before Jordan began endorsing them. The big shoe at the time were Converse. And Gatorade was considered nasty. If anything, Jordan made Nike and Gatorade.
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:22 PM   #88
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Kareem>jordan. His impact was much greater and immediate. His longevity is unsurpassed as was his knowledge of the game. Half of Kareems career was in the finals, where he won six times.
Kareem is not greater than Jordan. Nor has he had tthe same impact on the league. Kareem shouldve dominateed the NBA in the 70s. Hell half of the great players were playing in the ABA. Why couldnt he win more? And how many players including Bigs imitate Jordans fadeaway as opposed to the skyhook? Kareem has no case over Jordan
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:31 PM   #89
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And how many players including Bigs imitate Jordans fadeaway as opposed to the skyhook?

There's an argument to be made for Jordan over Kareem, but this is not it.

It's silly that one would resort to this when there are other, perfectly valid, points to be made.
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:32 PM   #90
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Kareem>jordan. His impact was much greater and immediate. His longevity is unsurpassed as was his knowledge of the game. Half of Kareems career was in the finals, where he won six times.

Sorry Kareem is an all time great but not the GOAT.
Kareems never had an impact of multiple 3peats
so i don't know where you get that from
Jordan skill>>>Kareem.
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