Originally Posted by cuad
Well, it's not. His food advice is hackish. Don't use it. Mine's better.
Why is it hackish? Because I said that you can eat junkfood once in a while?
Just read a bit into the Ketosis nutrition plan. Well it's nice, but nothing but a certain metabolism diet gone into detail. There's nothing I didn't say aside from eating junkfood once in a while. I didn't put up a whole foodplan, because that's no use on a forum. If someone's interested in an exact plan for himself, that person should go to a professional nutritionist anyway, because the foodplan depends heavily on the person itself and their activities.
I didn't promote any carbohydrate intake aside from apples and those carbohydrates are used up within 10 minutes if you do some activity, there's no mention about that in that bodybuilding forum thread. Glycolysis and the citrate cycle producing ATP as a byproduct only are used for shortterm energy if you don't eat too much sugar, which I proclaimed as bad aswell.
One thing that bugged me though, the food pyramid:
The intake of vegetables is not exactly the intake of carbohydrates - which is shown in the food pyramid. Cucumbers are about 90% water. They contain 15kcal per 100g(63kJ). The food pyramid on this website suggests that the intake of Nuts(Walnuts = 600kcal or 2520kJ per 100g, high on fat) which you have to eat with some fat, else the proteins contained within nuts cannot be used by the body, is superior to lettuce or any other lowcarb, low calorie vegetable.
Same for oils. Without being active the body stores the fat of oil as fat, man fat are still a form of carbohydrates, no mention of that in that thread. Actually fatty acids feed the citrate cycle and by that everything the op of the bodybuilder thread wants to avoid - read about it from another source.
Olive oil, which is about the most long-chained oil(the longer the better - palm oil is the longest chained one) you'll get without going to some asian specialty store, has about 900kcal(3780kJ) per 100g. So you the intake of oil on the bottom of the food pyramid is very deceiving.