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Old 08-05-2012, 03:55 AM   #16
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Sauce Money wrote "I'll Be Missing You" performed by Diddy (in memory of BIG). So everyone can just bow down and admit Sauce Money is the greatest writer out there.

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I remember Sauce had that one track with Jay-Z on Master P's I Got The Hook-Up Soundtrack.
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:21 AM   #19
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I like that one....but more due to the singing.
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:26 AM   #20
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Marie was cool, I didn't care for that wedding song and this one is alright.
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Old 08-05-2012, 04:26 AM   #21
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I like that one....but more due to the singing.
Or how about songs he wrote for others. Like this classic for his former bandmate Jerry Butler.

He Will Break Your Heart
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I remember Sauce had that one track with Jay-Z on Master P's I Got The Hook-Up Soundtrack.

I have that whack album somewhere in my basement... haha, but here's a decent Sauce/Jay jam.

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Curtis Mayfield's lyrics brought social awareness to the ghetto streets, something that not many other soul artists have done (at least as good as he did).
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Sorry Kizzle.

I respect and dig Curtis, but most of the songs you're posting are just good not that great, and to be honest, most were rather generic. Shit that the Beatles were doing in their early albums.

Curtis aint better then Stevie, and I doubt he's better then Smokey.
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Sorry Kizzle.

I respect and dig Curtis, but most of the songs you're posting are just good not that great, and to be honest, most were rather generic. Shit that the Beatles were doing in their early albums.

Curtis aint better then Stevie, and I doubt he's better then Smokey.
Lol, this isn't great?

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Sorry Kizzle.

I respect and dig Curtis, but most of the songs you're posting are just good not that great, and to be honest, most were rather generic. Shit that the Beatles were doing in their early albums.

Curtis aint better then Stevie, and I doubt he's better then Smokey.

L.Kizzle is talking from a songwriting/lyrical standpoint.

Stevie Wonder can't be touched as a singer tho
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It's good, just don't listen to a great song... at least not lyrics wise.

The music is cool, but again... not great, and there's nothing wrong with that. He does have great music, but others have just as many great songs and more. It's not an insult to say that he isn't the GOAT.

I do think that he gets criminally underrated while average white artists get hailed. The white mainstream media always overlook many black artists only giving props to a select handful, unless some hipster dude wants to stand out and throw out a black artists for points. But that's for another thread.
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L.Kizzle is talking from a songwriting/lyrical standpoint.

Stevie Wonder can't be touched as a singer tho

I undertand that, and Stevie is better in that department as well.

Not that Stevie is vastly superior or that Curtis is vastly inferior to other writers. Outside some songs, the way his songs are formatted I don't get greatness. Lyrics alone don't make a song, there's other aspects to them, such as the harmony, the hooks, the melody, how lines and words are crafted, the uniqueness etc.etc.
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It's good, just don't listen to a great song... at least not lyrics wise.

The music is cool, but again... not great, and there's nothing wrong with that. He does have great music, but others have just as many great songs and more. It's not an insult to say that he isn't the GOAT.

I do think that he gets criminally underrated while average white artists get hailed. The white mainstream media always overlook many black artists only giving props to a select handful, unless some hipster dude wants to stand out and throw out a black artists for points. But that's for another thread.
It's not even a white thing.

He's better than Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Smokey Robinson (you said Smoke was better, Smoke is not nearly as deep as Curtis), Sly Stone, Sam Cooke, James Brown ect all great black songwriter who most put over Mayfield without a blink.

Bobby Womack is another criminally underrated brother in the singer/songwriter mold as is Willie Hutch and Joe Tex.

Curtis just writes great music, his messages are very deep and his love is strong and he can get you on the dance floor.
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