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Old 08-07-2012, 02:52 AM   #16
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Default Re: Mates, how do you suppose Kobe and Carmelo differ as talents?

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Kobe has always been about as skilled of a passer as Lebron was.


Stopped reading here, mate. That's a troll comment.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:53 AM   #17
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Triangle is based on quick reads and ball movement, Kobe Iso'd a lot but usually later in plays after significant ball movement.



Wait was this before or after Phil Jackson called him uncoachable?
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:55 AM   #18
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Default Re: Mates, how do you suppose Kobe and Carmelo differ as talents?

2012 Old man kobe vs Melo

28 5 5 43% 4tov vs 23 6 4 43% 3tov
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:56 AM   #19
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WTF Melo has a higher FG%??????


I swear Melo's career avg is like 40-44, and this year he had 43%.

Kobe is a better passer, better leader, better IQ, more efficient, more diverse scorer, better explosive scorer, better defender, and IMO Kobe is atleast equal or a better rebounder than Melo. Melo is taller and plays a higher position though.
Melo's FG% is higher for his career. Better scorer.

Kobe has had better teams which carries him to titles, kobe chucks more bricks, ballhogs more and freezes out him teammates, overrated defender making undeserved all-defensive teams. His IQ is horrible, taking fadeaway 3 pointers instead of spoon feeding your bigs
Give Melo the best help anybody has ever had and he'll pile up rings quicker than Kobe can rape.

It isn't really close. Melo is clearly the better player. Anybody who isn't a Kobetard will agree.
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Default Re: Mates, how do you suppose Kobe and Carmelo differ as talents?

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Stopped reading here, mate. That's a troll comment.

Stopped listening to you when you said Kobe and Carmelo are the same guy.
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Default Re: Mates, how do you suppose Kobe and Carmelo differ as talents?

Kobe is a significantly better passer/play-maker and has proven over and over again that he can dominate on excellent passing teams. On championship teams.

Even last year the only non-PG to average more APG was LeBron.

Oh yeah.

5 rings bitch.
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Default Re: Mates, how do you suppose Kobe and Carmelo differ as talents?

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Melo's FG% is higher for his career. Better scorer.

Kobe has had better teams which carries him to titles, kobe chucks more bricks, ballhogs more and freezes out him teammates, overrated defender making undeserved all-defensive teams. His IQ is horrible, taking fadeaway 3 pointers instead of spoon feeding your bigs
Give Melo the best help anybody has ever had and he'll pile up rings quicker than Kobe can rape.

It isn't really close. Melo is clearly the better player. Anybody who isn't a Kobetard will agree.


Quite rightly considering Melo's stronger rebounding and tenacity in the post/paint I think I would give him the edge.

If he played 10 years with either prime Shaq or a loaded roster (starters and bench) I'm quite sure the Lakers would win a handful of titles with him. Only the Kobetards do wish to separate him from other players using team achievement. Otherwise there wouldn't be any way to separate him.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:00 AM   #23
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Default Re: Mates, how do you suppose Kobe and Carmelo differ as talents?

Career Points:

Kobe #5
Melo #95

Career Assists:

Kobe #41
Melo #Not ranked

Career Rebounds:

Kobe #140
Melo # Not ranked


There really isn't a comparison between these two except that they are both men and same race. That's about it.
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Oh yeah.

5 rings bitch.


See what I mean?


Bailed out by Fisher 5 times. Well, Horry a few as well.

And Artest.

And Ariza. And Gasol.




Clutch!
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See what I mean?


Bailed out by Fisher 5 times. Well, Horry a few as well.

And Artest.

And Ariza. And Gasol.




Clutch!


Melo bailed out by Lin?
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Default Re: Mates, how do you suppose Kobe and Carmelo differ as talents?

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See what I mean?


Bailed out by Fisher 5 times. Well, Horry a few as well.

And Artest.

And Ariza. And Gasol.




Clutch!

You act as if Basketball isn't a team sport and Kobe was ballin all by himself. Bailed out Kobe? The players you mentioned bailed out the team.
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Default Re: Mates, how do you suppose Kobe and Carmelo differ as talents?

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Melo's FG% is higher for his career. Better scorer.

Kobe has had better teams which carries him to titles, kobe chucks more bricks, ballhogs more and freezes out him teammates, overrated defender making undeserved all-defensive teams. His IQ is horrible, taking fadeaway 3 pointers instead of spoon feeding your bigs
Give Melo the best help anybody has ever had and he'll pile up rings quicker than Kobe can rape.

It isn't really close. Melo is clearly the better player. Anybody who isn't a Kobetard will agree.


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You act as if Basketball isn't a team sport and Kobe was ballin all by himself. Bailed out Kobe? The players you mentioned bailed out the team.


Actually mate I'm not exaggerating, most of the big shots those guys made in big games came immediately after Kobe bricked a contested, ill-advised hero shot with the game in the balance.

But I guess that rather high IQ and knack for ball movement is why Phil called him 'uncoachable'
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Default Re: Mates, how do you suppose Kobe and Carmelo differ as talents?

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Actually mate I'm not exaggerating, most of the big shots those guys made in big games came immediately after Kobe bricked a contested, ill-advised hero shot with the game in the balance.

But I guess that rather high IQ and knack for ball movement is why Phil called him 'uncoachable'

Phil was selling a book. If he thought Kobe was uncoachable he would have not returned to coach the Lakers. If you actually followed the Lakers, Kobe practically killed the Spurs, Lakers biggest rival. And don't even try to look Shaq numbers against because he did not look superman against those Twin Towers.
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