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Old 08-07-2012, 05:07 AM   #31
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Default Re: The LIE That There Were Not Any Good International Players In '92

Bogut, mills >> gaze, heal..

Nigeria > Greece and the majority of d-league PG's>shitnoulis...
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:11 AM   #32
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Hey euroleague, did you end up posting your top 5 players? Genuinely interested in your opinion. Srs, No troll
I think his list was:

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Old 08-07-2012, 05:13 AM   #33
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You forgot Divac. But still no doubt the international game has grown since '92
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:26 AM   #34
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Drazen Petrovic - NBA player, and universally considered one of the top 5 European players in Europe, and one of the top 2 shooting guards of all time in Europe.

Arvydas Sabonis - NBA player, and universally considered one of the top 5 European players in Europe, and best European center ever.

Toni Kukoc -NBA player, and considered one of the best European players ever.

Dino Radja - NBA player, and considered one of the best European players ever.

Sarunas Marciulonis - NBA player, and considered one of the best European players ever.

Oscar Schmidt - Universally regarded as the best Brazilian player ever, and many consider him the best South American player ever. Was offered numerous NBA contracts, but turned them down.

Detlef Schrempf - NBA player, and considered one of the best European players ever, and second best German player ever.

Sergei Bazarevich - NBA player, and considered the best Russian point guard of all time.

Andrew Gaze - NBA player, and pretty much regarded as the best Australian player ever.

Shane Heal - NBA player, and considered by most to be one of the top 4 Australian players ever.

Alberto Herreros - NBA draft pick, and considered to be one of the best Spanish players ever. Was offered several NBA contracts, but turned them down.

Arturas Karnisovas - Regarded as one of the best Lithuanian players ever.

Rimas Kurtinaitis - Regarded as one of the best Lithuanian players ever.

Velimir Perasovic - Regarded as one of the best Croatian players ever.

Epi - Pretty much universally regarded as the third best Spanish player of all time.

Valeri Tikhonenko - The best Russian center ever.

Stojan Vrankovic - NBA player, and one of the best Croatian players.

Alexander Volkov - NBA player, and pretty much universally regarded as the best Ukrainian player ever.

Zan Tabak - NBA player, and viewed as one of the best Croatian centers ever.

Most of those players were good to great in their respect, but the talent wasn't concentrated on one team. If there would have been a starting line up containing Sabonis, Radja, Kukoc, Drazen, Marciulionis and some of the other guys as back ups they might have been competitive, but aside from croatia there were two guys and then a huge drop off.

Kukoc especially was a compareble young prospect back then. he played well in Europe, but european ball didn't prepare players for games against the Dream Team.

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Funny thing was they call him the Magic Johnson of Europe. Then he got in the NBA, he can't even carry Magic jockstrap.

Drazen drew Magic comparisons. Watch some old, before-NBA games by him, he was awesome, he was a great ball handler. I think had he been drafted by a different team and not the 20 guard rotation Blazers, he might have had a better resume as an NBA player.
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:28 AM   #35
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zan tabak?

i remember having this guys rookie card. what a ****ing joker
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:29 AM   #36
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V-Span and Nate Huffman weren't playing back then. Weak era for European basketball
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:34 AM   #37
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It's true that there were tons of great international players in the 92.
With that said, the overall level of international competition was probably better in the mid 00s.
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:37 AM   #38
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Man you gusy have it against Euroleague bad; this wasn't even a troll or a rant at all. He's just stating the fact that the Europeans in 92 had good player on their team too, trying to break the fantasy that the dream team was playing against scrubs. This just proves that the dream team of 92 was and still is the best.
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:39 AM   #39
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Most of those players were good to great in their respect, but the talent wasn't concentrated on one team. If there would have been a starting line up containing Sabonis, Radja, Kukoc, Drazen, Marciulionis and some of the other guys as back ups they might have been competitive, but aside from croatia there were two guys and then a huge drop off.

Kukoc especially was a compareble young prospect back then. he played well in Europe, but european ball didn't prepare players for games against the Dream Team


Drazen drew Magic comparisons. Watch some old, before-NBA games by him, he was awesome, he was a great ball handler. I think had he been drafted by a different team and not the 20 guard rotation Blazers, he might have had a better
resume as an NBA player.

Before NBA. Of course he will look superb. How many NBA players look great in college. It's lower level of competition especially how great the corpse of Mc Adoo looked during those times. In retrospect, Petrovic was pretty good player. He proved that given a chance with New Jersey. But back then it's pretty much a novelty for European to be an NBA player. Now you can see a lot of NBA Players all over Europe albeit role players. If Petrovic was an American,
he could been Look at just another good player.
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:13 AM   #40
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Before NBA. Of course he will look superb. How many NBA players look great in college. It's lower level of competition especially how great the corpse of Mc Adoo looked during those times. In retrospect, Petrovic was pretty good player. He proved that given a chance with New Jersey. But back then it's pretty much a novelty for European to be an NBA player. Now you can see a lot of NBA Players all over Europe albeit role players. If Petrovic was an American,
he could been Look at just another good player.

He had the freedom to do the things he wanted to do in europe. When he was on the Nets it began to shine through what he's capable of doing. He didn't lose his handles once he transfered to the NBA. He lost confidence. If he had been american he would have been a first rounder picked by a team who needed his skills, not a 60th pick on a team that made him a redundand piece in a crowded backcourt.
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:44 AM   #41
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You forgot Divac. But still no doubt the international game has grown since '92

As far as I remember, Divac didn't play at the 1992 Olympics, because he was Serbian.

Great European players like Sasha Danilovic, Zarko Paspalj, Vlade Divac, Sasha Djordevic, Fanis Christodoulou, Panagiotis Giannakis, Nikos Galis didn't play at the 1992 Olympics.

And where do you get the idea teams like '92 Lithuania and '92 Unified Russia only had 2 good players?

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Old 08-07-2012, 07:55 AM   #42
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Croatia had such a nice team. I think if it were still Yugoslavia and we had the benefit of a deeper talent pool we could have really taken it to Dream Team. A lot will say what they want about that, but even with all that talent the Dream Team had, Croatia found a way to have the lead in the first half a while into the game. Would have been interesting if it could have stockpiled talent from Serbia and Bosnia, etc.

Would have been a very close game in my opinion.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:00 AM   #43
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Damn all those supposed all-time great Europeans would not get close to Nigeria's best Hakeem the Dream
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:00 AM   #44
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im sure stars never change , like in the nba, if u took the top 2-3 plaers every year, its always gonna be pretty close.

but its the scrubs, the top 30, the top 20, the top 50 and 100 guys that really change imo
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:06 AM   #45
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Please tell me you are joking...

ill give you bogut and mills over shane heal but over andrew gaze? no way!
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