Re: Lets Be Real: Dirk Was More Successful as a Lead Dog Than KG
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Originally Posted by Carbine
It did though. I was hard on Garnett early in his career and really did not like the way he played in the '08 finals at all, but he did lead them to the ring as much as anyone else on the team did from the stand-point of taking all the series into factor.
I'm talking about being the clear cut #1 option.. he did it with 2 hall of famers.
Re: Lets Be Real: Dirk Was More Successful as a Lead Dog Than KG
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Originally Posted by Rubio2Gasol
You could put together a weaker team with players more suited to playing with Kg and they would get it done to be honest.Prime KG was a monster, put him on any of Duncan's championship teams and he's get it done.
He was a monster but he isn't leading Jason Terry and JJ Barea to a championship.
Re: Lets Be Real: Dirk Was More Successful as a Lead Dog Than KG
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Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Probably not. Why would they? That Mavs team was built around Dirk's strengths.
Would Dirk be able to take Minny's supporting cast in '04 to the Conference finals? With guys like Sprewell, Hudson, Cassell and Szczerbiak?
Why wouldn't they? Dirk took two dogs.hit teams to the Finals and won one of them. Have you ever seen the 06 team? They were starting Adrian Griffin and had a center combo of Erick Dampier and Diop. Stacked
Re: Lets Be Real: Dirk Was More Successful as a Lead Dog Than KG
I wonder if Dirks champion ship run will continue to be surrounded by 1st and 2nd round knock outs. For the Mavs and his sake I hope not. Surely a revamped roster will help but who knows. From 2007-2012, Dirk carried the Mavs to a 26 win/26 loss record in the playoffs, including 4 first round exits.
Re: Lets Be Real: Dirk Was More Successful as a Lead Dog Than KG
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Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
He was a monster but he isn't leading Jason Terry and JJ Barea to a championship.
But that's subjective.
No one on the world would say Dirk was more successful than Duncan as a first option but KG would give those teams more (we all know TD is a better rim protector but KG's defensive versatility and lateral quickness across the perimiter compensates) to a a Chip.
And all the other relative scrubs right, that's a nicely balanced team but whats more important is that all these guys played the playoffs of their lives and they were raining threes like we've never seen before.
Kidd/Barea
Steveson/Terry
Hedo/Stojakovic
KG
Chandler/Haywood
Could get it done almost as well (talking bout Orlando 09 Hedo BTW). There's virtually no change in talent there.ou're just accomodating for KG's strengths which is what Cuban and Dallas did for Dirk.
Last edited by Rubio2Gasol : 08-07-2012 at 02:02 PM.
Re: Lets Be Real: Dirk Was More Successful as a Lead Dog Than KG
both kg and dirk could never win without a great supporting cast carrying them to a finals. I would take kg though because he does alll the little things needed to win. all the little dirty things. dirk cant even set a screen properly and plays no d whatsoever
Re: Lets Be Real: Dirk Was More Successful as a Lead Dog Than KG
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Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
Why wouldn't they? Dirk took two dogs.hit teams to the Finals and won one of them. Have you ever seen the 06 team? They were starting Adrian Griffin and had a center combo of Erick Dampier and Diop. Stacked
Right. "Dog shit" teams, hah!
1st in offensive rating in 2006 and top 10 in DRtg in 2011.
Terry/Kidd/Stojakovic/Marion/Chandler/Stevenson >>>> Cassell/Hudson/Olowokandi/Szczerbiak/Hoiberg and it's not even close. Dallas' 2006 squad also had more talent.
Re: Lets Be Real: Dirk Was More Successful as a Lead Dog Than KG
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Originally Posted by kobron23
both kg and dirk could never win without a great supporting cast carrying them to a finals. I would take kg though because he does alll the little things needed to win. all the little dirty things. dirk cant even set a screen properly and plays no d whatsoever
I already knew you were retarded, but this just sealed it.
Re: Lets Be Real: Dirk Was More Successful as a Lead Dog Than KG
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Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
Allen and Pierce were both way better players than Kidd was in 2011. Kidd was a beast defensively, but he wasn't on PP or Allen's level at the time.
So really what you're saying is that since KG needed scorers to win a title, that somehow makes him less of a player than Dirk, who is only good-great at scoring and thus needs a team to cover up all of the other holes...
Re: Lets Be Real: Dirk Was More Successful as a Lead Dog Than KG
