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Old 08-07-2012, 08:36 PM   #1
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Default NBA hall of fame players who would have a title(s) if it wasn't for Jordan

Stockton
Malone
Barkley
Reggie Miller
Ewing


other players who have a title but would have one as the lead dog without Jordan

Payton
Drexler

Also the Cavs
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:48 PM   #2
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Default Re: NBA hall of fame players who would have a title(s) if it wasn't for Jordan

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Stockton
Malone
Barkley
Reggie Miller
Ewing


other players who have a title but would have one as the lead dog without Jordan

Payton
Drexler

Also the Cavs

CORRECTION: If not for Pippen. MJ teams without Pippen were sub .500 teams. Each and every year. Check it out. Go to church. Do your homework.
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Default Re: NBA hall of fame players who would have a title(s) if it wasn't for Jordan

Reggie Miller was never winning a title with or without Jordan in the league.
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Dude would've won in 1998
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Dude would've won in 1998

Who, Reggie?

You think the Pacers would have ousted the Jazz in the Finals?

No way, no how. Jazz win that series in 6, maybe even 5.
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Default Re: NBA hall of fame players who would have a title(s) if it wasn't for Jordan

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CORRECTION: If not for Pippen. MJ teams without Pippen were sub .500 teams. Each and every year. Check it out. Go to church. Do your homework.
Jordan made Pippen into an all-star, Pippen couldn't even win a FMVP or MVP the entire time he was in Chicago even when Jordan was aging and he was entering his prime.

Anyways how many other players have just straight up denied top25 hall of famers from winning championships?
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:18 PM   #7
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Reggie Miller was never winning a title with or without Jordan in the league.

1998... they could have beaten the Jazz... "could"... and without Jordan in 2000, but there that 8 foot 500 pound something behemoth in LA stopped him instead..

He had a chance to win it at the last stage of his career aswell, when they had the best record in the NBA (think it was 2004) and were owning the Pistons (Pistons won the championship that year), what happened then? Ask Ron Artest........

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Ewing. The Knicks would have stomped the blazers.
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Who, Reggie?

You think the Pacers would have ousted the Jazz in the Finals?

No way, no how. Jazz win that series in 6, maybe even 5.
I think Indy would have beaten Utah. Maybe Miami would have too in 97.
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:31 PM   #10
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It's not like having Jordan there just completely demolished any chance of beating them. It's these "great" players own fault they didn't step up and play their heart out like Mike did every night.
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It's not like having Jordan there just completely demolished any chance of beating them. It's these "great" players own fault they didn't step up and play their heart out like Mike did every night.

Heart takes you as far as your talent/skill allows you or as far as the opposing teams talent/skill allows you...
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It's not like having Jordan there just completely demolished any chance of beating them. It's these "great" players own fault they didn't step up and play their heart out like Mike did every night.
To be fair, the '92 Knicks got jobbed against the Bulls.
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Default Re: NBA hall of fame players who would have a title(s) if it wasn't for Jordan

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Stockton
Malone
Barkley
Reggie Miller
Ewing


other players who have a title but would have one as the lead dog without Jordan

Payton
Drexler

Also the Cavs


That was Kemp's team. Kemp would of won the FMVP too.
I do believe Payton deserved a lot of credit as he was the other
main contributor.
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Heart takes you as far as your talent/skill allows you or as far as the opposing teams talent/skill allows you...

If you honestly believe that you don't know anything. Michael Jordan had weaknesses as a ball player, ball-handling, 3-pt shot, probably more. But, there was one strong-point that required no skill Michael possessed. The will to win. Michael overcame his weaknesses as a ball player to win games. Period.
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:46 PM   #15
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If you honestly believe that you don't know anything. Michael Jordan had weaknesses as a ball player, ball-handling, 3-pt shot, probably more. But, there was one strong-point that required no skill Michael possessed. The will to win. Michael overcame his weaknesses as a ball player to win games. Period.

If you honestly believe that YOU dont know anything.

Take that man in your avatar for example, Allen Iverson, can you tell me who had a bigger heart? Why didnt he win anything?

Take Reggie Miller as an example aswell.... that guy invented the basketball term "stepping up" & "heart"...

What happened?

What happened to prime T-Mac? Lack of heart and "will to win" aswell? Get the hell outta here with that... fact is, this is a TEAM GAME, no matter how good you are (or believe how good you are or how good your will or heart is) you will NEVER win a championship if you dont have the REQUIRED supporting cast to beat everybody and that specific team you will meet in the Finals....

..and yes Jordan had to fight of a weakness, but those other players had MUCH bigger weaknesses...

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