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Old 08-08-2012, 10:51 AM   #1
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The Obama campaign is planning a fundraising “shoot-around” and dinner in New York on Aug. 22 featuring several NBA stars, including Carmelo Anthony of the New York Knicks, Rajon Rondo of the Boston Celtics , John Wall of the Washington Wizards and others. Jordan, who played for the Chicago Bulls, Obama’s favorite NBA team, and NBA Commissioner David Stern are co-hosting a $20,000-per person fundraising dinner with the president later in the day.


Also Jordan and Stern will be co-hosting an Obama dinner today

The U.S economy though
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:17 AM   #2
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The U.S economy though

It's not like Romney's going to change anything either.
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It's not like Romney's going to change anything either.

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It's not like Romney's going to change anything either.

They'll both figure out how to spend more, whiles breaking their promises of not pushing the debt onto the next generation.
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They'll both figure out how to spend more, whiles breaking their promises of not pushing the debt onto the next generation.

Obama will try to do something on the deficit in a second term. It won't be all we need, but I think he'll want to have that for his legacy. It'll be a question if Republicans can grow up and really talk about taxes.

Obama's going to want historians looking back on his time in the White House with killing Bin Laden, passing national health care, effectively ending two wars and passing something on entitlements/debt.

He won't say it now because he's looking to get reelected, but I think if Republicans will meet him on taxes, he'd go a surprising distance on entitlements and spending.

One thing both sides have always tried to sell on him is that he's a rigid idea-loge. He's a pragmatic opportunist.
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Obama will try to do something on the deficit in a second term. It won't be all we need, but I think he'll want to have that for his legacy. It'll be a question if Republicans can grow up and really talk about taxes.

Obama's going to want historians looking back on his time in the White House with killing Bin Laden, passing national health care, effectively ending two wars and passing something on entitlements/debt.

He won't say it now because he's looking to get reelected, but I think if Republicans will meet him on taxes, he'd go a surprising distance on entitlements and spending.

One thing both sides have always tried to sell on him is that he's a rigid idea-loge. He's a pragmatic opportunist.



No, he wont. What about the Obama administration makes you believe they take the deficit seriously? Because they've been preaching the buffet rule? Raising taxes is always a popular narrative, but the taxes, always bring about even more taxes because the government can't tax the people enough to pay for it's out of control spending. The past three decades have been the Era of America spending way beyond it's means.



Historians will look back at the Obama administration for prolonging the war in Afghanistan, with an unnecessary serge, and attempting to commit special opp troops till 2024 to prop up a horrible Afghan regime. They'll look back on his administration for unconstitutional drone strikes against Somalia, Pakistan and Yemen, and a completely unconstitutional war against Libya. He'll be looked back on as a man who claimed he wouldn't push the debt onto the next generation, and preceded to watch it explode.

Entitlements and Debt? The guy didn't even push forward Simpsons-Bowels, which was probably the closest thing to to a solution to both of those problems.


The only time Obama has been an opportunist is during his campaign in 08, offering change and solutions, and when he ordered the seal operation that killed Bin Laden.


I'll give Obama the benefit of the doubt on healthcare.

I'm an Independent, I'm not opposed to paying more taxes, after the government proves that it can stop borrowing and printing money to sustain it's out of control spending.

Romney on the other hand has the potential to be worse, if he's actually serious about his approaches to Iran and Syria which could possibly drag us into another war in which we have no way to possibly pay for.

It's not about Dem/Republican, we've been spending money at an outrageous rate for three decades and printing/borrowing money to sustain that spending.

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Entitlements and Debt? The guy didn't even push forward Simpsons-Bowels, which was probably the closest thing to to a solution to both of those problems.

Two words. Social Security. He's not going to touch it heading into an election. I think he's game for it in a second term, but he's not conceding Florida right now to make a deal.
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Two words. Social Security. He's not going to touch it heading into an election. I think he's game for it in a second term, but he's not conceding Florida right now to make a deal.

Makes no difference if it's Romney or Obama, I have very little confidence that either of them will limit spending or institute real reform. Same big spending policies, two differnt parties.
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Makes no difference if it's Romney or Obama, I have very little confidence that either of them will limit spending or institute real reform. Same big spending policies, two differnt parties.

I get a little tired of hearing everyone bitching about spending. Everyone wants fiscal responsibility until what that would take is really laid out. We need drastic changes to military spending, Medicare and Social Security. The problem is voters beat the hell out of anyone that goes there.

It's not the politicians, but the people that decide this stuff. It's like people that complain about negative ads. The only reason that politicians run them is because people vote off of them.

The only reason that spending never gets really checked is that the people really don't want it to be.
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effectively ending two wars

We left Iraq under Bush's original time table. Obama wanted to stay in Iraq longer but the Iraqi government wouldn't go along with granting amnesty making US troops immune from lawsuits or criminal charges.

Mercenaries already are immune from criminal charges or law suits so hes keeping 5500 mercenaries in Iraq and they cost the tax payer 5x more than a US soldier. So we will still have a presence in Iraq and and still spend at least a billion a year,
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The upper tax bracket under this guy was 90%. Obama wants to go from 35% to 39%, and he gets called a socialist.
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We left Iraq under Bush's original time table.

Then why are we even commenting on the economy and the debt? Both issues started under Bush. You can't play that game. It's such a hack move.
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