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Old 08-09-2012, 08:06 PM   #31
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That's the problem with the era rule though, you basically lose that wrestler's value if they flip flopped roles or only had a short time in some role. If all these regulations were established pre-draft, i think people would have picked differently, i definitely would have with some picks.
Shamrock's gimmick never changed so I think you can use his entire 2-year run in the WWF as an era.

Face/heel turns happen way too often during the Attitude Era. Jericho for example, he started out as a heel in August 1999, then a tweener, then a full-fledged face by WrestleMania 2000. That's within 7 months.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:13 PM   #32
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I'll do that. And in i don't remember. I wasn't really prepared to do era research. I just though "Shamrock, 90s? He got DQ'd a lot, must have been a heel."
He got DQ'd a lot because he had a gimmick where he snaps out on everybody, even refs, but he was technically a face. Most of his DQ'd were in title matches(vs Shawn for the WWF belt and vs Rock for IC belt) but he won cleanly against non-title holders.

I'm guessing they didn't think he was worthy of the WWF belt and also they wanted to build up Rock as an upcoming top heel so Rock kept that IC belt for a while during that run.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:15 PM   #33
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He got DQ'd a lot because he had a gimmick where he snaps out on everybody, even refs, but he was technically a face. Most of his DQ'd were in title matches(vs Shawn for the WWF belt and vs Rock for IC belt) but he won cleanly against non-title holders.

I'm guessing they didn't think he was worthy of the WWF belt and also they wanted to build up Rock as an upcoming top heel so Rock kept that IC belt for a while during that run.

He was considered for the belt, but every time they gave him a chance with a mic, he was terrible. And there went his title dreams.

He still got enough pop from the crowd to be in title contention tho.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:19 PM   #34
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Honestly I think the era rule is a mistake. One of the things that makes guys special is the ability to get over in different roles. That's one of the things that hurts a guy like Cena and makes Jericho awesome. Jericho has been over in a ton of different characters while Cena has been super Cena for a decade. It's not a good thing to not be able to reinvent yourself. Also even though he wouldn't get credit for it since it was wcw, one of hogans greatest achievements is following the biggest face run ever with the best heel run ever
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:19 PM   #35
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He was considered for the belt, but every time they gave him a chance with a mic, he was terrible. And there went his title dreams.

He still got enough pop from the crowd to be in title contention tho.
Last sentence doesn't say much since everybody got pop/heat during that era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxnb3MBiIas just listen to that crowd during a European title match.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:22 PM   #36
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Last sentence doesn't say much since everybody got pop/heat during that era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxnb3MBiIas just listen to that crowd during a European title match.

I meant he got cheered more compared to his opponent.

The Attitude Era really was the glory days of wrestling.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:27 PM   #37
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Honestly I think the era rule is a mistake. One of the things that makes guys special is the ability to get over in different roles. That's one of the things that hurts a guy like Cena and makes Jericho awesome. Jericho has been over in a ton of different characters while Cena has been super Cena for a decade. It's not a good thing to not be able to reinvent yourself. Also even though he wouldn't get credit for it since it was wcw, one of hogans greatest achievements is following the biggest face run ever with the best heel run ever

Good point. I have no problem switching to all time wwwf/wwf/wwe instead of a specific era.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:37 PM   #38
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Singles Competitors :

The Rock - The jabroni beating, pie eating, trail blazing, eye brow raising
Ryback - feed me more 2012- Face
RvD - 2006 mr. monday night - face
Mark Henry - 2010,2011 Hall of pain - Heel
Wade Barret - - leader of Nexus - HEEL
Hardcore Holly. attitude era - Tweener
Mr kenendy 2005-2007 - HEEL
Diamond dallas page 2001,2002 - HEEL

Tag Teams :

Ryback and Wade Barret - "Nexus reunited"
Mark Henry and Hardcore Holly- "Interracial Hardcore Pain"
Rvd and DDP- "Initial /Acronym Power"
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:38 PM   #39
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Singles Competitors :

Randy Savage - 87-91 - Heel
Ricky Steamboat -85- 88 - Face
Sycho Sid - 95-95 - Heel
Road Warrior Animal - 90-92 - Face
The Iron Sheik -83-87- Heel
MVP -06-09 - Heel


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Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:47 PM   #40
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Singles

1. John Cena (Current) - Face
2. Roddy Piper (1984-1987) - Heel
3. "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig - (1988-1991) - Heel
4. Sheamus (Current) - Face
5. Dusty Rhodes (1989-1991) - Face
6. John Morrison -(2007-2009) - Heel
7. Bubba Ray Dudley - (2002) - Face
8. D-Von Dudley - Reverend D-Von (2002) - Heel

Tag Teams

1. Bubby Ray Dudley and D-Von Dudley - Dudley Boyz - Heel
2. John Cena and Sheamus - Face
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:50 PM   #41
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12 teams have submitted their roster.

4 more teams to go.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:58 PM   #42
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Can we just have just one or two tag team? Or it have to be 3?

I don't really understand the tag team part
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:02 PM   #43
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Can we just have just one or two tag team? Or it have to be 3?

I don't really understand the tag team part

You can choose to only submit one. But that means you can only use one throughout the whole tournament. So selecting three teams now does you no harm for the future. But you should keep in mind that the two wrestlers in the tag team cannot be used as individual wrestlers for the same round.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:04 PM   #44
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Singles

1. John Cena (Current) - Face
2. Roddy Piper (1984-1987) - Heel
3. "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig - (1988-1991) - Heel
4. Sheamus (Current) - Face
5. Dusty Rhodes (1989-1991) - Face
6. John Morrison -(2007-2009) - Heel
7. Bubba Ray Dudley - (2002) - Face
8. D-Von Dudley - Reverend D-Von (2002) - Heel

Tag Teams

1. Bubby Ray Dudley and D-Von Dudley - Dudley Boyz - Heel
2. John Cena and Sheamus - Face
The favorite IMO heading into the tourney. Other than John Morrison that's an awesome roster.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:09 PM   #45
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I'll do mine later
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