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Old 08-14-2012, 03:41 PM   #16
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Why don't you just start believing gun control will work when it already works just fine in Canada?
Because it doesn't work, you think all you need to do to keep things away from people is outlaw them? Well why don't we outlaw all the bad things like meth alcohol and cocaine I'm sure that will work out well.
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:43 PM   #17
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Exactly why you can't have honest dialogue about gun control. Dumbass rednecks like that who don't even know what the 2nd amendment was about.

If that jackass cop had a gun on him he could have pulled a Zimmerman

What, killed a suspicious person? But no one would give a **** about it because the person killed wouldn't be black. Not saying that cop isn't a complete moron, just saying that you are.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:06 PM   #18
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Because it doesn't work, you think all you need to do to keep things away from people is outlaw them? Well why don't we outlaw all the bad things like meth alcohol and cocaine I'm sure that will work out well.


For numerous reasons. First guns aren't 'outlawed' in Canada, dipshit. Secondly, the gun control measures in place work very well, as evidenced by the lack of gun violence. Way to spit in the face of reality, kiddo.

As for the guy in the OP, I lived in Calgary for 10 years and have never felt uncomfortable anywhere. There are a couple places that you probably don't want to go at night but aren't absolute do not fly zones where you are going to get hurt/killed like most American cities of similar size. So to say that he was completely blowing the situation out of proportion would be an understatement.
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Old 08-14-2012, 04:19 PM   #19
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For numerous reasons. First guns aren't 'outlawed' in Canada, dipshit. Secondly, the gun control measures in place work very well, as evidenced by the lack of gun violence. Way to spit in the face of reality, kiddo.

As for the guy in the OP, I lived in Calgary for 10 years and have never felt uncomfortable anywhere. There are a couple places that you probably don't want to go at night but aren't absolute do not fly zones where you are going to get hurt/killed like most American cities of similar size. So to say that he was completely blowing the situation out of proportion would be an understatement.

First I live in Canada and have my entire life, second last time I was in Calgary a couple people got shot in a drive by down the street from where I was staying.

You should review the thread I already went over this of course Canada has less gun violence it has less violence. Guns aren't magic they don't create an urge to commit crime they are just tools.

Now how is gun control supposed to restrict access to these tools? The government has been a spectacular failure at restricting access to things see prohibition and the drug war for examples.
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:20 PM   #20
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What, killed a suspicious person? But no one would give a **** about it because the person killed wouldn't be black. Not saying that cop isn't a complete moron, just saying that you are.


Yeah, white people have it hard

****ing ignorant idiots against stricter gun laws are usually racists like this piece of shit above.
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:32 PM   #21
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Yeah, white people have it hard

****ing ignorant idiots against stricter gun laws are usually racists like this piece of shit above.

Oh really? Know the history of gun control in America?

"Before the American Civil War ended, state slave codes prohibited slaves from owning guns. After slavery in the U.S. was abolished, states persisted in prohibiting Black people from owning guns under laws renamed Black Codes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_con..._United_States

It's harder to lynch people who can shoot you.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:19 PM   #22
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Oh really? Know the history of gun control in America?

"Before the American Civil War ended, state slave codes prohibited slaves from owning guns. After slavery in the U.S. was abolished, states persisted in prohibiting Black people from owning guns under laws renamed Black Codes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_con..._United_States

It's harder to lynch people who can shoot you.

No shit.

Now, do you know what the 2nd amendment was for? Do you realize that it is actually irrelevant in today's society? Do you think a "well regulated militia" can stop the government from anything in the times we live in?
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:28 PM   #23
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No shit.

Now, do you know what the 2nd amendment was for? Do you realize that it is actually irrelevant in today's society? Do you think a "well regulated militia" can stop the government from anything in the times we live in?

It most definitely can,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerril...illa_conflicts
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:55 PM   #24
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No shit.

Now, do you know what the 2nd amendment was for? Do you realize that it is actually irrelevant in today's society? Do you think a "well regulated militia" can stop the government from anything in the times we live in?

a well regulated militia at the cost of 10,000 lives per year to propagate gun culture.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:02 PM   #25
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You do realize the constitution of the United Stated of America only applies to the United States of America, right?

Look at our military today and rethink what I just asked you above.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:04 PM   #26
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a well regulated militia at the cost of 10,000 lives per year to propagate gun culture.


The whole gun culture here in the US is ignorant and dangerous. And it's based on a clearly outdated and misinterpreted amendment anyways.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:10 PM   #27
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You do realize the constitution of the United Stated of America only applies to the United States of America, right?

Look at our military today and rethink what I just asked you above.
You're arguing people can't resist there governments, I don't see why you feel one country is exceptional.

But since you brought it up, the Vietnamese and Afghan's seem to disagree with you. You expect me to believe that the most heavily armed population on the planet has no chance of success against something that has spent 10 years failing to defeat a much smaller amount of extremely poor people?

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a well regulated militia at the cost of 10,000 lives per year to propagate gun culture.

Right because people would stop murdering each other if all the guns went away.

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Old 08-14-2012, 10:21 PM   #28
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I hate it when people argue for more gun control by brining up massacres.

All they do is shout, "More Gun Control" without brining up any measures to actually stop these. These morons act like criminals actually follow laws.

And to the bolded, someone with a gun could have a chance to stop it. People have stopped things like this in the past so acting like it's some fantasy is dumb.

The fact is that you don't want people to protect themselves from incidents like these and that's simply twisted.



as for marijuana, teenagers have it in about 100% of our public high schools (U.S). nobody does anything about it.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:24 PM   #29
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You're arguing people can't resist there governments, I don't see why you feel one country is exceptional.

But since you brought it up, the Vietnamese and Afghan's seem to disagree with you. You expect me to believe that the most heavily armed population on the planet has no chance of success against something that has spent 10 years failing to defeat a much smaller amount of extremely poor people?


What in the world are you talking about? Stop being all over the place. I'm talking about America, don't bring up other countries or the illegal wars Bush got us into.

Invading another country has nothing to do with this discussion. The problem in Afghanistan isn't that they are "well armed" but the terrain. Well, that and a million other reasons.

I'm just saying the 2nd amendment is outdated and most people who use it now a days to defend their right to own all sorts of different weapons clearly don't understand what the intent of it was.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:29 PM   #30
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And @ whoever was comparing prohibition and marijuana to guns.

You can make your own moonshine and grow your own weed. Good luck on building a weapon from scratch on your own

The solution isn't to outlaw guns, that ship has sailed. It is impossible to do that. The solution is simple. There are ways to regulate guns and ammo and the such. You shouldn't be able to buy the amount of weapons and ammo the dude in Colorado bought without someone somewhere asking questions.

The biggest obstacle to all of this is the NRA.
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