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Old 08-15-2012, 02:52 AM   #16
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been calling him overrated and media hyped since his college days after he won his first nat'l title.

that said, he is arguably the best prototypical wildcat QB we've ever seen. he's got size, speed, power, great athleticism and he throws better than most QB's that started off has HB's or whatever.

as to why he's so popular? he played for a popular team in college and his 'i promise we'll never lose again' speech went viral and made him an instant fan favorite of millions. on top of that, he's marketable because of his outspoken religion (there's no denying that many americans not only believe in god, but are christian) and his looks, no homo. i can't completely rule out race either. all of those factors combined just make him identifiable to many.


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Old 08-15-2012, 05:01 AM   #17
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Yep. Add in that fact that he played at Florida. is a scrambling QB, and he that he ain't bad looking (no homo), and you got your perfect media market figure.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:37 AM   #18
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Gotta remember hate fuels hype and popularity just as much as love. For every 5 people that like his beliefs and all that there's 5 more that can't stand him.

Plus he was awful for 90% of games but when the time came he'd step up and end up winning in a really exciting way. Wasn't always him(Matt Prater, Marion Barber fumble, Steelers blown coverage) clearly helped but every week felt like Tebow was going off in the 4th quarter. He's the definition of clutch. Quarters 1-3 he could barely complete a pass or get points. Later in the game he actually looked like a competent QB sometimes. It was pretty crazy.

I feel like no matter what his faith, personality + the fact that he was amazing in college to get on people's radar will always get him hype and chatter unless he completely flames out but all that and the dramatic fashion of wins last year was what took it to another level.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:02 AM   #19
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I can't imagine what would happen if he ever messed up.

Like hit a girl
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Had sex
Sent a cooock pic
Smoked weed.

Lmao he would be crucified
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:14 AM   #20
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As has been pointed out, a lot of it has to do with the visceral response to how he won games. Seemingly always pulling the proverbial rabbit from the hat. Performing a "miracle", with the addition of his visable religious beliefs, make for a story that's both easy to tell for the media, and easy to digest for the public.

For those saying his White-ness is helping, I don't really agree with that. I'm not one to run from race theories, but it seems race giving someone a q-rating boost has more to do with their outlier status. Micheal Vick probably gets more of a popularity nudge being a Black Quarterback than Tim Tebow gets being a White Quarterback. Same way a white basketball player gets a nudge for being white. No one is thinking white quarterback. It's Quarterbacks and Black Quarterbacks. Just like it's basketball players and white basketball players.

I can't give him too much credit for the big market because he just got there.

He is ... no homo ... good looking enough, and still wholesome, that everyone's mother can like him.

Tim Tebow the name is an alleteration, and a catchy one at that.

And my own personal theory ... I think some of it is a backlash to the statistical overanalysis of sports in the current age. There was a time when you could sit on a barstool and have a conversation about QBs, or second basemen, or whatever. But now you can actually "be wrong". It's more in baseball than other sports, but with the more main streaminess of fantasy football over other sports, there's a statistical arrogance that's making it's way into football too. And I think part of the charm of Tebow is that he doesn't fit any of those models. People were unable to explain his success numerically, and for people who don't watch football solely for point totals, Tebow's success was sort of a chance for them to praise things like ball control, clutchness, bend but don't break, giving yourself a chance to win ... and other non-statistical football axioms.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:03 AM   #21
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he did amazing stuff when he was on that streak for a crappy football team. it was as amazing as the Lin story.

then he got scooped up as the poster boy for religious and wholesome role models, and they've been propping him up ever since.

as straight forward as that...
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:21 PM   #22
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i seem to think his strong religious beliefs have overshadowed his actual playing skills long by now.
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:17 PM   #23
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He won back to back NCAA Titles, and he's the poster boy for Christian America.
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:20 PM   #24
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As has been pointed out, a lot of it has to do with the visceral response to how he won games. Seemingly always pulling the proverbial rabbit from the hat. Performing a "miracle", with the addition of his visable religious beliefs, make for a story that's both easy to tell for the media, and easy to digest for the public.

For those saying his White-ness is helping, I don't really agree with that. I'm not one to run from race theories, but it seems race giving someone a q-rating boost has more to do with their outlier status. Micheal Vick probably gets more of a popularity nudge being a Black Quarterback than Tim Tebow gets being a White Quarterback. Same way a white basketball player gets a nudge for being white. No one is thinking white quarterback. It's Quarterbacks and Black Quarterbacks. Just like it's basketball players and white basketball players.

I can't give him too much credit for the big market because he just got there.

He is ... no homo ... good looking enough, and still wholesome, that everyone's mother can like him.

Tim Tebow the name is an alleteration, and a catchy one at that.

And my own personal theory ... I think some of it is a backlash to the statistical overanalysis of sports in the current age. There was a time when you could sit on a barstool and have a conversation about QBs, or second basemen, or whatever. But now you can actually "be wrong". It's more in baseball than other sports, but with the more main streaminess of fantasy football over other sports, there's a statistical arrogance that's making it's way into football too. And I think part of the charm of Tebow is that he doesn't fit any of those models. People were unable to explain his success numerically, and for people who don't watch football solely for point totals, Tebow's success was sort of a chance for them to praise things like ball control, clutchness, bend but don't break, giving yourself a chance to win ... and other non-statistical football axioms.

I like Tebow because he has the power to make 30+ year old straight talkers like Thorpe say "no homo".
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:32 PM   #25
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I like Tebow because he has the power to make 30+ year old straight talkers like Thorpe say "no homo".
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:48 PM   #26
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he did amazing stuff when he was on that streak for a crappy football team. it was as amazing as the Lin story.

then he got scooped up as the poster boy for religious and wholesome role models, and they've been propping him up ever since.

as straight forward as that...
no he didnt. he had games where he barely complete 5 passes. dude was horrible across most of those games and got bailed out by the D and his kicker or made 1 or 2 lucky plays down the stretch. dont even compare it to lin carrying that knicks team for 12 games straight, all game long.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:09 PM   #27
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It started in college. Tebow became overrated at Florida so much so that he is credited with 2 titles, even though he was coming off the bench for gadget plays during the first title. It has to be frustrating to Chris Leak to have no one remember that it was you that reestablished Florida as a national power after the failure of The Zook Era.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:44 PM   #28
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He didn't really do much in the way of great things. His team (remember he does play on a team with many other players) mainly beat bad/mediocre teams, and he didn't exactly play great. He didn't come close to earning great recognition. Probably the most overrated NFL player I can remember in quite some time. He did well to upset the Steelers in the playoffs, but he got waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much love last year.


he was a bigger overall threat than 3/4's of the QB's in the league. and to say he didn't do great things when he led a go nowhere team to the playoffs is nuts. sure their D played well and generally kept the scores low, but the offense was extremely conservative as well, in fact way too conservative but thats john fox for you, he was the same way in Carolina. teams that play that way will always emphasize their D, and give their Offensive players the least of opportunities where Tebow did a hell of a lot considering what he was given. not to mention the heart....he ran better than most FB's...
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:02 PM   #29
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he was a bigger overall threat than 3/4's of the QB's in the league.

He was closer to the opposite. How in the hell was he a bigger threat than most QBs? He was awful throwing the ball, which is the biggest part of being a QB. How many games did he complete over 50% of his passes? If he didn't suck so much in the first 3 quarters, then they wouldn't have had to had those 4th quarter comebacks. What happened when they played a good team? They got stomped by the Packers, they got demolished by the Lions and they got killed by the Pats. Hell, they even got crushed by a crappy Bills team.

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sure their D played well and generally kept the scores low, but the offense was extremely conservative as well, in fact way too conservative but thats john fox for you, he was the same way in Carolina.

What were they supposed to do, let Tebow throw it 40 times a game?
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:35 PM   #30
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He was closer to the opposite. How in the hell was he a bigger threat than most QBs? He was awful throwing the ball, which is the biggest part of being a QB. How many games did he complete over 50% of his passes? If he didn't suck so much in the first 3 quarters, then they wouldn't have had to had those 4th quarter comebacks. What happened when they played a good team? They got stomped by the Packers, they got demolished by the Lions and they got killed by the Pats. Hell, they even got crushed by a crappy Bills team.



What were they supposed to do, let Tebow throw it 40 times a game?

John Fox would waste almost every 3rd down if they didn't get a 1st by then, doing a obvious run. everyone knew he was running against stacked boxes because their playing calling and defensive based team mentality was never turn the ball over. conservative to a fault. he's that coach who will rather make the extremely obvious play throughout a whole game just so he takes less chances and relies on the D. its funny how people put it on Tebow when the play calling and whole mentality of that team was not to turn the ball over even if that means not giving your team chances to make plays. but when the game is on the line in the 4th he opens it up more giving tebow more opportunities and what happens? its partly tebow too since he's got that same mentality in his head to just throw it away if theres any risk at all, and it makes me laugh how much people exaggerate how bad his throwing is from a lot of his throwaways

he's not nearly as inept a thrower as people act, especially when he can always make plays to open things up with his feet like few QB's can. most QB's in the nfl are nowhere near the multi threat and rely so much on their oline's they're scrubs when theres too much pressure. the most important thing is tebow can learn to throw a whole lot easier than any of them will be able to run like him.
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