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Old 08-15-2012, 02:34 PM   #31
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Voodoo(D'Angelo), Since I Left You(The Avalanches), Relationship of Command(At The Drive-In), Elephant(The White Stripes), Sea Change(Beck), Anthem(Christian Scott), Is This It(The Strokes), The Headphone Masterpiece(Cody ChesnuTT), Oracular Spectacular(MGMT), and Discovery(Daft Punk)
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:48 PM   #32
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Musicians?

What makes someone a musician to you exactly? Just being able to play or doing so for a living?

I know people in both camps who love hip hop. An awful lot of the people producing hip hop songs play music.

And shit like this:

And ROFL @ a rap album being better.

Not lyrically, and specially not musically.


Just makes me laugh.

Like the music you want. Lyrics wise? Id love to know what makes this song you mentioned anything special:


I jumped in the river and what did I see?
Black-eyed angels swam with me
A moon full of stars and astral cars
All the things I used to see
All my lovers were there with me
All my past and futures
And we all went to heaven in a little row boat
There was nothing to fear and nothing to doubt



And then they repeat it.


Lets not act like its some amazingly penned brilliance.

Always amazes me what fans of rock call great lyrics and great song writing. The Beatles biggest hit(at least at one time...not sure it still is after all the rereleases) was this bullshit:


yeah i tell you something
i think you'll understand
when i say that something
i wanna hold your hand

i wanna hold your hand (x2)

oh please say to me
you'll let me be your man
and please say to me
you'll let me hold your hand

now let me hold your hand
i wanna hold your hand


And some of their more serious music is pretty basic lyrics wise.

While say...Killer Mike:

The ballot or the bullet, some freedom or some bullshit
Will we ever do it big, or keep just settling for little shit
We brag on having bread, but none of us are bakers
We all talk having greens, but none of us own acres
If none of us on acres, and none of us grow wheat
Then who will feed our people when our people need to eat?
So it seems our people starve from lack of understanding
Cause all we seem to give them is some balling and some dancing
And some talking about our car and imaginary mansions
We should be indicted for bullshit we inciting
Hella children deaf and pretending it's exciting
We are advertisements for agony and pain
We exploit the youth, we tell them to join a gang
We tell them dope stories, introduce them to the game
Just like Oliver North introduced us to cocaine
In the 80s when the bricks came on military planes


But Killer is a rapper so its assumed he doesnt have lyrics?

Rap on the radio is no more than the hip hop version of that "MMMbop" bullshit.

Hell of a lot of rap albums have better lyrics than the radiohead ive heard. Granted that isnt a lot but its not like they are someone im unaware of.

To be a good rapper it takes writing ability. You have to carry a song with your words.

Say Three sides to a Story:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBjAEpwbIac

Is that earier to write than like...Ribbon in the Sky?

Or a song like Wales Diary?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWlazCvwi0

Its pretty much just spoken word over a beat.

Its rare I hear a non rap song im as impressed by lyrics wise as a good rap song.

It happens. But its rare. Its almost childsplay in comparison in some cases.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:11 PM   #33
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did this retard just post a picture of a wacka flocka album?? kill yourself
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:13 PM   #34
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Flockaveli was nice

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Old 08-15-2012, 03:15 PM   #35
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If you said Kid A, then that would have been hard to top. Amnesiac? I'm a Radiohead fan but their die-hard fans and critics always automatically give every album they released since OK Computer 5 stars, instant classic and masterpiece claims. That's total bullshit. Only Kid A and In Rainbows have been masterpiece classics.

In pop and rock genres, these 10 albums are better than Amnesiac:

Radiohead - Kid A (2000)
Lovage - How to Make Love to Your Old Lady By (2001)
The Strokes - Is This It (2001)
Jimmy Eat World - Bleed America (2001)
The Chemical Brothers - Come With Us (2002)
Paul Westerberg - Stereo (2002)
Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary (2005)
Radiohead - In Rainbows (2007)
MGMT - Oracular Spectacular (2007/08)
Taylor Swift - Fearless (2008)

Yes, that last one is not an error.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:15 PM   #36
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Radiohead vs. Waka Flocka Flame




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Old 08-15-2012, 03:18 PM   #37
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floockaveli is the best rap album of the past 5 years, as agreed on by people who actually listen to rap.

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Old 08-15-2012, 03:20 PM   #38
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floockaveli is the best rap album of the past 5 years, as agreed on by people who actually listen to rap.

wow I think ive heard it all. actually coming from you thats not a big suprise man. you post nothing but ghetto hood rat bullshit for years. you are ****ing trash man you are what you listen to.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:21 PM   #39
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If you said Kid A, then that would have been hard to top. Amnesiac? I'm a Radiohead fan but their die-hard fans and critics always automatically give every album they released since OK Computer 5 stars, instant classic and masterpiece claims. That's total bullshit. Only Kid A and In Rainbows have been masterpiece classics.

In pop and rock genres, these 10 albums are better than Amnesiac:

Radiohead - Kid A (2000)
Lovage - How to Make Love to Your Old Lady By (2001)
The Strokes - Is This It (2001)
Jimmy Eat World - Bleed America (2001)
The Chemical Brothers - Come With Us (2002)
Paul Westerberg - Stereo (2002)
Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary (2005)
Radiohead - In Rainbows (2007)
MGMT - Oracular Spectacular (2007/08)
Taylor Swift - Fearless (2008)

Yes, that last one is not an error.
Shit, I forgot about Arcade Fire's Funeral (2004). Also, Kanye's College Dropout and Late Registration were better too, and I'm not even a rap fan.
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wow I think ive heard it all. actually coming from you thats not a big suprise man. you post nothing but ghetto hood rat bullshit for years. you are ****ing trash man you are what you listen to.

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Old 08-15-2012, 03:24 PM   #41
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Sun Kil Moon - Ghosts of the Great Highway
Sun Kil Moon - April
Bob Dylan - Love and Theft
Bob Dylan - Modern Times
Dinosaur Jr - Beyond
Dinosaur Jr - Farm
Neil Young - Live at Massey Hall
Iron and Wine - The Creek Drank the Cradle
Tom Waits - Blood Money
Red House Painters - Old Ramon

Those are just ten I picked off the top of my head. I don't even like Amnesiac so I could write up a whole damn list if I wanted to.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:55 PM   #42
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That aren't by this same artist.

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Once again, they show their musical range by using different styles. They hit you with great song after song, and while they may not be radio friendly hits, they sure are great. And none more powerful then their gloomy 'Pyramid Song'….. one of the greatest songs of our generation.

Scratch the last part.

OF ALL TIME.

I won't namedrop stuff here since I don't dig modern music that much, but a few days ago I had a discussion with my mates about "heady" music and Radiohead kinda fits in well.

Radiohead is made by the head for the head. It lacks the transportation of feelings, it's nerdy music that fails to put me into deep emotion, and I'm not alone with that sentiment - alot of my musician friends feel the same(huh!). It's not the worst in that aspect. Our drummer made us watch the DT drummer rehearsals and that was some awkward nerdy shit.

Radiohead doesn't seem to be inspiring. Alot of bands get huge inspiritations from past/present established bands. Actually most bands, if not made of brothers/friends, get together for their similarities in taste. I never heard any band state they'd wanna sound like Radiohead.

And that's not because you can't copy them. That's because they don't shake you. As Lemmy put it, (not a word by word quote) the first thing that you dig musically will inspire you musically for your whole life.

Who digs Radiohead as a first band?

Radiohead is listeners music not musician music.

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And ROFL @ a rap album being better.

Not lyrically, and specially not musically.

At least not lyrically coming from the artists posted.

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For the simple reason that one can't compare music that's mostly sampled to music that's mostly created from scratch. Two completely different worlds, it shouldn't even be a discussion.

There's a reason why most musicians generally look down on hip hop.

That's some ignorant shit here. I'm a bass player myself. I'm almost exclusively into rock, put a solid hip hop output is preferable to a cheesy or shitty rock output of any kind. I don't listen much to new hip hop stuff, but I really dig the early 90s.

Hip hop takes some decent musically if the output has to be good. First you got guys like the Roots who actually play their instrument, but you also have to have an insane feel for music if you really want to put out some good hip hop songs. It's not like you steal some music, mesh it together and it will sound great. Arrangement is one of the toughest things in music and that's a gift only a few have. I will never be a guy who produces songs or writes them. I can write riffs that sound catchy, that's no problem, but to arrange them into whole songs is left for others.

My mates, aswell, don't look down on hip hop. It's not the music we listen to the most, but no one of us holds Radiohead to a higher opinion than the Pharcyde ie.

Lyrically downplaying hip hop is pretty lame since it actually is a form of music that heavily promotes the lyrical part of the song.

Don't mistake hip hop for the crap you see on MTV, else you could mistake your godly Radiohead for Nickelback.

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Old 08-15-2012, 09:59 PM   #43
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Go hang out with musicians and they generally disrespect hip hop, even if they do listen to it.

I play drums and guitar and I respect/like some hip hop.

But lets be real. Crack the Skye >>>> any album mentioned in this thread. Probably because Crack the Skye is the best album of the 2000's and it's not even all that close.
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I play drums and guitar and I respect/like some hip hop.

But lets be real. Crack the Skye >>>> any album mentioned in this thread. Probably because Crack the Skye is the best album of the 2000's and it's not even all that close.

Saw them live once. Not bad, but nothing outstanding either(their sounddude sucked huge balls, might be a reason), but would take what they played at their set any day over anything Radiohead has ever done.

Didn't check them out further though. Can you recommend some songs(they were an opening act so didn't know anything about them before).
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Saw them live once. Not bad, but nothing outstanding either(their sounddude sucked huge balls, might be a reason), but would take what they played at their set any day over anything Radiohead has ever done.

Didn't check them out further though. Can you recommend some songs(they were an opening act so didn't know anything about them before).

They're kind of hit and miss live. They struggle with some of the vocal harmonies.

Crack the Skye is their best album, but it's probably their most accessible too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzQ5o7b7qf0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx2fp...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihZn_...feature=relmfu

Leviathan is widely regarded as their best or second best album (my second favorite). Here are a few from that album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U__QulYyo0E&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6D-ys43DMo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp1dRh2FVVs
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