What makes someone a musician to you exactly? Just being able to play or doing so for a living?
I know people in both camps who love hip hop. An awful lot of the people producing hip hop songs play music.
And shit like this:
And ROFL @ a rap album being better.
Not lyrically, and specially not musically.
Just makes me laugh.
Like the music you want. Lyrics wise? Id love to know what makes this song you mentioned anything special:
I jumped in the river and what did I see?
Black-eyed angels swam with me
A moon full of stars and astral cars
All the things I used to see
All my lovers were there with me
All my past and futures
And we all went to heaven in a little row boat
There was nothing to fear and nothing to doubt
And then they repeat it.
Lets not act like its some amazingly penned brilliance.
Always amazes me what fans of rock call great lyrics and great song writing. The Beatles biggest hit(at least at one time...not sure it still is after all the rereleases) was this bullshit:
yeah i tell you something
i think you'll understand
when i say that something
i wanna hold your hand
i wanna hold your hand (x2)
oh please say to me
you'll let me be your man
and please say to me
you'll let me hold your hand
now let me hold your hand
i wanna hold your hand
And some of their more serious music is pretty basic lyrics wise.
While say...Killer Mike:
The ballot or the bullet, some freedom or some bullshit
Will we ever do it big, or keep just settling for little shit
We brag on having bread, but none of us are bakers
We all talk having greens, but none of us own acres
If none of us on acres, and none of us grow wheat
Then who will feed our people when our people need to eat?
So it seems our people starve from lack of understanding
Cause all we seem to give them is some balling and some dancing
And some talking about our car and imaginary mansions
We should be indicted for bullshit we inciting
Hella children deaf and pretending it's exciting
We are advertisements for agony and pain
We exploit the youth, we tell them to join a gang
We tell them dope stories, introduce them to the game
Just like Oliver North introduced us to cocaine
In the 80s when the bricks came on military planes
But Killer is a rapper so its assumed he doesnt have lyrics?
Rap on the radio is no more than the hip hop version of that "MMMbop" bullshit.
Hell of a lot of rap albums have better lyrics than the radiohead ive heard. Granted that isnt a lot but its not like they are someone im unaware of.
To be a good rapper it takes writing ability. You have to carry a song with your words.
Say Three sides to a Story:
Is that earier to write than like...Ribbon in the Sky?
Or a song like Wales Diary?
Its pretty much just spoken word over a beat.
Its rare I hear a non rap song im as impressed by lyrics wise as a good rap song.
It happens. But its rare. Its almost childsplay in comparison in some cases.