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Old 08-15-2012, 05:48 PM   #31
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messi could end up being better than müller and he probably will but right now he isn't, i just proved my point
how so? you just posted his goalscoring record
is muller even top 20 of all time? is he even top 3 german ever?
please... its like comparing some random 80s volume shooter to durant because he has more career points
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:52 PM   #32
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how so? you just posted his goalscoring record
is muller even top 20 of all time? is he even top 3 german ever?
please... its like comparing some random 80s volume shooter to durant because he has more career points
Gerd Muller? What about Thomas Muller? top goalscorer at the world cup to his credit, Messi has like one goal in two world cups, including countless easy misses in 2010.

Messi will one day be on Muller or Donovan's or Dempsey's level internationally (where it really matters) but he's not there yet.
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Old 08-15-2012, 05:53 PM   #33
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you just posted his goalscoring record
is muller even top 20 of all time?
yes he is
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is he even top 3 german ever?
2nd after beckenbauer imo

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1 World Cup, 1 European Championship, 3 European Cups, 1 Cup Winners Cup, 4 German titles, 4 German cups
not exactly
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:00 PM   #34
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You can say Messi is better than Muller if you want but you're acting as if Muller is a scrub just stop.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:22 PM   #35
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Jesus christ. I don't know if this is a trolling exhibition or just really dumb people.

Lionel Messi is one of the greatest footballers of all time. Up there with Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Beckenbauer etc. Gerd Muller is one of the best goalscorers and one of the best strikers of all time. There is genuinely no comparison nor should there be.

Football isn't like Basketball where how many rings you have dictates your standing in the game. Neither Messi or Ronaldo have won an international tournament but they're by far the two greatest footballers on the planet (along with Xavi and Iniesta).

Luca Toni has won a World Cup... Luca Toni > Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Johan Cruyff, Alfredo Di Stefano, Ferenc Puskas, Michel Platini, George Best etc?
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:25 PM   #36
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Jesus christ. I don't know if this is a trolling exhibition or just really dumb people.

Lionel Messi is one of the greatest footballers of all time. Up there with Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Beckenbauer etc. Gerd Muller is one of the best goalscorers and one of the best strikers of all time. There is genuinely no comparison nor should there be.

Football isn't like Basketball where how many rings you have dictates your standing in the game. Neither Messi or Ronaldo have won an international tournament but they're by far the two greatest footballers on the planet (along with Xavi and Iniesta).

Luca Toni has won a World Cup... Luca Toni > Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Johan Cruyff, Alfredo Di Stefano, Ferenc Puskas, Michel Platini, George Best etc?
thats like saying Robert Horry>Karl Malone
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thats like saying Robert Horry>Karl Malone

It's your fkn logic!
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You can say Messi is better than Muller if you want but you're acting as if Muller is a scrub just stop.
yeah but he is throwing me some random numbers like he even knows the dude... he is just a big name in germany, austria... but i bet 95% of his fans barely watched a game of his... like many fans in the nba forum of the great bill russell.. or the great pistol pete etc etc

its like someone who still isnt even born, 40 years from now talks about how great mario gomez was and throws out his goalscoring record and accomplishments ( lets say germany wins next WC for example )
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yeah but he is throwing me some random numbers like he even knows the dude... he is just a big name in germany, austria... but i bet 95% of his fans barely watched a game of his... like many fans in the nba forum of the great bill russell.. or the great pistol pete etc etc

its like someone who still isnt even born, 40 years from now talks about how great mario gomez was and throws out his goalscoring record and accomplishments ( lets say germany wins next WC for example )

True fans know Messi is in a league of his own
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It's your fkn logic!
so world cup wins or champions league wins don't matter when comparing two players
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so world cup wins or champions league wins don't matter when comparing two players

To an extent.

Does Gerd Muller's one World Cup win make him a better footballer than guys like Johan Cruyff and Alfredo Di Stefano? No, quite clearly not. So why does it make him a better player than Lionel Messi who is also one of the best there's ever been.

Champions League's? Messi's won 3 and was the main guy in 2 of the victories. He's usually top scorer in the Champions League. The only player to have scored 5 goals in a Champions League match.

3x Ballon d'Or winner and favourite to make it 4 in a row.

Muller was great but he wasn't in the same league as guys like Messi, Pele, Maradona and Cruyff. Those are the best there's ever been.
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He missed a penalty? Wow. Never mind those 80 goals and 27 assists last season. And the 3 Ballon d'Or's too.

Not like Pele, Maradona and others never missed a penalty.
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He missed a penalty? Wow. Never mind those 80 goals and 27 assists last season. And the 3 Ballon d'Or's too.

Not like Pele, Maradona and others never missed a penalty.
80 goals, but where are they when it matters?

Messi missed another penalty today, seems like a habit.
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80 goals, but where are they when it matters?

Messi missed another penalty today, seems like a habit.

He also scored. Another habit

Where are they when it matters? Yeah, he hasn't scored winning goals in two different Champions League finals nor was he the catalyst behind Barcelona's golden period under Pep Guardiola.

Just shut up trolling.
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