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Old 08-18-2012, 07:25 PM   #16
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30-35
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:30 PM   #17
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Top 30-40 way too many better players ahead of him at all other positions
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:30 PM   #18
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Top 20.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:58 PM   #19
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How long until this turns into a bunch of Lebron stans doing everything in their power to make Wade look as bad as humanly possible?

Id say top 25-30 though. 2 rings, 1 as the top dawg, the other as a 1b option. His 09 season was prolly his best. Can't see him climbing any higher unless he really comes to play in the playoffs next year.

If Lebron went down for a game or even a series & the HEAT were able to win due to Wade stepping up, he could cement a top 20 spot.

I give it 6 more post
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:47 PM   #20
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Wade is top 20. He is already the 2nd best SG of all-time after Jordan so top 20 is definetly where he fits in. Carried a team to a title with his 2nd option averaging 12 PPG in the Finals. Noone willed a team to a title more than Wade in 06. Best Finals series ever considering the circumstances, his cast, and what he had to overcome. With more titles and clutch performances he can climb the list.

His greatest competition for the 2nd best ever at the two-guard are kobe and west. West choked in the playoffs too much until he was on that stacked Lakers team where Wilt dominated. And Wade has the same rings as Kobe(The 00-02 rings dont count, those were Shaqs I could have won playing with him). Kobe was probably the best player on the 09 Lakers, but Gasol was better in 10. Wade was the best player on 2006 and 2nd best on 2012 so he is very similar to Kobe. Wades amazing 2006 Finals series puts him over Kobe. Kobe has not done anything in his entire career that is the same caliber as Wades 2006 Finals, the biggest stage in basketball.
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Old 08-18-2012, 08:56 PM   #21
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tony parker has 3 titles and 1 as clear cut #1

wade will never make the top 20 all time without a season mvp or atleast allot of 1st team's

hes got neither
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:01 PM   #22
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1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Bill Russell
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille Oneal
8. Tim Duncan
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Kobe Bryant
11. LeBron James
12. Moses Malone
13. Jerry West
14. Oscar Robertson
15. Julius Erving
16. Karl Malone
17. Charles Barkley
18. Kevin Garnett
19. Dirk Nowitzki
20. David Robinson
21. Elgin Baylor
22. Isiah Thomas
23. Bob Pettit
24. John Havlicek
25. George Mikan
26. Rick Barry
27. Bob Cousy
28. Dwyane Wade <---------
29. James Worthy
30. Scottie Pippen
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:06 PM   #23
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I would say top25 as well, I already have him above Rick Parry, Pippen, Pettit and maybe cousy and worthy with a few more seasons averaging the numbers he normally does, so actually Wade is near the top20 if you take all those players out of the equation.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:23 PM   #24
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I have him just outside top 25 at the moment. If he can avoid more injuries though and the Heat get a few more titles, he can move into the top 20 IMO. His peak is pretty dam high.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:33 PM   #25
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Hakeem/Kobe is very close, you could switch places if you so wish and have Kobe above (i do that some time aswell going back n forth), its very debatable going by various criterias, its an acquired taste... trust me... i can show you what i mean if you wish

As far as Lebron goes, yes he deserves to be right behind Hakeem and Kobe at around 11-12-13.. but that doesnt mean he is extremly close to Hakeem/Kobe in terms of career accomplishments, there is still a gap... but more like that it certainly means he had a better career than the usual #11-#12 all-time players like Moses Malone for example.... take a look:

Award:.........................Moses.............. ...Lebron.........
MVP................................3.............. ..........3.............
FMVP...............................1.............. ..........1............
CHAMP.............................1............... .........1 (a greater championship run mind you)
ROTY..............................No.............. ........Yes.............
DPOY..............................No.............. ........No.............
1st All-NBA.......................4....................... .6..............
1st All-Def........................1...................... ..4..............
NBA All-Star.....................12....................... 8..............
All-Star MVP......................0........................ 2..............
Olympic Gold.....................0........................ 2..............
POTM................................4............. ..........20............
Was best in the NBA?.......Never....................Yes........... .

You may not be so fond of this mr James guy... but he indeed belongs there right next to Moses, nowhere else...

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Old 08-18-2012, 10:51 PM   #26
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I am debating if I should put him above Bennet Salvatore or not
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:59 PM   #27
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Didn't ppl say Wade was second coming of Jordan? rofl

Didn't ppl say Kobe was the second coming of Jordan? Rofl
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:01 PM   #28
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Didn't ppl say Kobe was the second coming of Jordan? Rofl

Well we'll always remember Wade as a better Finals performer than Kobe.
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:09 PM   #29
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I don't see how the two are comparable nor is it laughable?

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Old 08-18-2012, 11:09 PM   #30
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Top 25.

Not sure where he's going to rank for the future, hopefully he doesn't tail off.
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