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Old 08-22-2012, 03:07 PM   #61
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Default Re: Lebron is NOT more skilled than Jordan (who isn't even the most skilled player ever)

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AVERAGE? An average passer is Kevin Durant or Andre Iguadola. Jordan was worlds better then them in passing. Even if you are going by assist numbers, which is a flawed way anyway, he clearly wasn't average.

What's idiotic about that if its entirely possible? Overall, I wouldn't say he was great at everything cause he wasn't great at rebounding, but for his position he definitely was. And he's not the only player I'd put in that category.

And Durant is a garbage passer, he's a willing passer but he sucks at it.
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Old 08-22-2012, 03:08 PM   #62
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Shaq wasn't the most skilled big man but he dominated like a pimp mofo...
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Old 08-22-2012, 04:57 PM   #63
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Default Re: Lebron is NOT more skilled than Jordan (who isn't even the most skilled player ever)

Technical skill is at the level a lot of yall are talking about.

All applied knowledge that is active in a sport and efficient is a skill. Some people are more technical skilled than others, not necessarily better. Al Jefferson is the most technically skilled post scorer out there, or at least at center. Blake the second best and has the most range with Howard the least technically skilled of the three. But scoring is more of a sure thing the opposite way around. By definitition Howard can be said to use his know how better than Jefferson which fits in with the first definition of skill in most dictionaries. Oxford dictionary

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The goal is more important than the mechanics by most definitions of SKILL. Tiger Woods could have a less than perfect swing, but he is usually more skilled than the competition when he's on his game. However, other players might be more technically skilled, which is a difference. Foot movement for a rebound is good but a serious of other elements have to factored in. The overall formula, which is subject to an plethora of differences, is more important than the mastery of three or four technical skills.
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Old 08-22-2012, 05:24 PM   #64
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Technical skill is at the level a lot of yall are talking about.

All applied knowledge that is active in a sport and efficient is a skill. Some people are more technical skilled than others, not necessarily better. Al Jefferson is the most technically skilled post scorer out there, or at least at center. Blake the second best and has the most range with Howard the least technically skilled of the three. But scoring is more of a sure thing the opposite way around. By definitition Howard can be said to use his know how better than Jefferson which fits in with the first definition of skill in most dictionaries. Oxford dictionary

Definition of skill
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the ability to do something well; expertise:


The goal is more important than the mechanics by most definitions of SKILL. Tiger Woods could have a less than perfect swing, but he is usually more skilled than the competition when he's on his game. However, other players might be more technically skilled, which is a difference. Foot movement for a rebound is good but a serious of other elements have to factored in. The overall formula, which is subject to an plethora of differences, is more important than the mastery of three or four technical skills.

Well said sir! I feel if u are great at scoring, then clearly u are very skilled at it. Lebron can score as good as anybody in the L. He's won scoring titles and stays near the top in the scoring column. But compared to Durant, Kobe, Dirk, and Melo, his scoring skillset isn't as good. And he's not quite as clutch, even though I feel Bron has shown clutch moments. So if u lean to Durant, Kobe, Bron, or Melo scoring wise because of those reasons, then that's fine. But Bron is still on their level in terms of putting the ball in the hoop results wise or PPG wise.

Take Clyde Drexler for example. He dribbled with his head down and didn't have great dexterity with the ball. But he ran a great fast break and has put up 7-8 assist seasons before. He's one of the very best non PG passers of all time. So I consider Clyde a very skilled passer and finisher. Even though on a technical level it's not textbook or very fundamentally sound.

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Old 08-22-2012, 06:13 PM   #65
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Technical skill is at the level a lot of yall are talking about.

All applied knowledge that is active in a sport and efficient is a skill. Some people are more technical skilled than others, not necessarily better. Al Jefferson is the most technically skilled post scorer out there, or at least at center. Blake the second best and has the most range with Howard the least technically skilled of the three. But scoring is more of a sure thing the opposite way around. By definitition Howard can be said to use his know how better than Jefferson which fits in with the first definition of skill in most dictionaries. Oxford dictionary

Definition of skill
noun

the ability to do something well; expertise:


The goal is more important than the mechanics by most definitions of SKILL. Tiger Woods could have a less than perfect swing, but he is usually more skilled than the competition when he's on his game. However, other players might be more technically skilled, which is a difference. Foot movement for a rebound is good but a serious of other elements have to factored in. The overall formula, which is subject to an plethora of differences, is more important than the mastery of three or four technical skills.
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