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Old 08-23-2012, 01:34 AM   #46
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Default Re: If Nash tears his ACL, who starts for the lakers?

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lol they won 5 titles without a real point guard

all they need is a defensive motivated center and a bench

nash just makes them legendary... instead of just winning the title we're gonna blast them with p*ss


1. The past is irrelevant to now

2. Nash is a major factor in why the Lakers are being considered a favorite out of the west. A team with Howard, Gasol, and Kobe is better than with Bynum, but still not good enough to beat OKC. Even with Nash, OKC is a problem. The "Nash/Howard" effect, right?

Of course, I'm a blind hater so my opinion is pointless.

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Old 08-23-2012, 01:36 AM   #47
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Default Re: If Nash tears his ACL, who starts for the lakers?

They'd still be contenders without Nash. We're still talking a top 3 player in the league+ the best SG+ a top 5 PF and solid role-players in Hill/Jamison/Artest/Meeks.

Kobe/Pau/Dwight are still going to be creating a ton of open looks for everybody, and Dwight alone guarantees them a great defense.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:38 AM   #48
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They'd still be contenders without Nash. We're still talking a top 3 player in the league+ the best SG+ a top 5 PF and solid role-players in Hill/Jamison/Artest/Meeks.

Kobe/Pau/Dwight are still going to be creating a ton of open looks for everybody, and Dwight alone guarantees them a great defense.

It's better than last year yes, but they had the top SG last year, a top 5 PF last year, and a top 2 center in the NBA last year as well. That team without Nash would be a title contender, but it wouldn't be good enough to get past OKC again. I think we would see the same results.
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Default Re: If Nash tears his ACL, who starts for the lakers?

I disagree. I think you underestimate just how much better Howard is compared to Bynum. Defensively he blows Bynum away. Last year we were ranked 13th in DRTG. With Howard I expect the Lakers to be in the top 5 at least. Offensively he's a much better fit because of his far superior foul-drawing, offensive rebounding, better passing, and much better mobility.

Seriously, he's wayyyyyyyyyyy better than Bynum.

I think the Lakers have a very good shot at beating the Thunder with Dwight in there even with no Nash.
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Old 08-23-2012, 01:51 AM   #50
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I disagree. I think you underestimate just how much better Howard is compared to Bynum. Defensively he blows Bynum away. Last year we were ranked 13th in DRTG. With Howard I expect the Lakers to be in the top 5 at least. Offensively he's a much better fit because of his far superior foul-drawing, offensive rebounding, better passing, and much better mobility.

Seriously, he's wayyyyyyyyyyy better than Bynum.

I think the Lakers have a very good shot at beating the Thunder with Dwight in there even with no Nash.

You have more of an argument against Miami than OKC here. The Thunder are more of a perimeter team and have some people in the front court to match up with Howard. I did say LA is better with Howard, but I also think people are overestimating his value if they are saying this makes them the favorites without Nash.

I understand you are a Lakers fan so you are going to argue with me either way, but the Nash effect with Gasol and Howard scares me a lot more than a similar offense to last year.
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Default Re: If Nash tears his ACL, who starts for the lakers?

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They'd still be contenders without Nash. We're still talking a top 3 player in the league+ the best SG+ a top 5 PF and solid role-players in Hill/Jamison/Artest/Meeks.

Kobe/Pau/Dwight are still going to be creating a ton of open looks for everybody, and Dwight alone guarantees them a great defense.

i think Artest is pretty much nothing right now
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