Re: If Kobe Can't Win It All in 2013 Then He Should NOT Be Top 10
If this team ultimately fails to win a ring it won't keep Kobe out of the top ten for me, but it will keep him safely behind Duncan. Duncan would be killing it next to Howard or Gasol.
Re: If Kobe Can't Win It All in 2013 Then He Should NOT Be Top 10
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Originally Posted by chazzy
I've never understood the idea of a player going lower on an all time list without another player surpassing them.
I think it makes sense if you're counting active players. Their careers evolve and parts of their legacy become either additions or subtractions.
To me, Kobe is the third best guard ever and #8 all time. I have him behind MJ, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Wilt and Duncan and in that order. I go back and forth between spots 5-8. Bird, Wilt, Duncan and Kobe are all kind of in the same tier to me. If Kobe does however end his last great run with a dysfunctional failure, then yeah, it does effect how I rank him without say, LeBron jumping into the top 10.
He doesn't slide so much as his feet get stuck in cement to me.
Re: If Kobe Can't Win It All in 2013 Then He Should NOT Be Top 10
Kobe is playing very well as a 34 year old guy on his 17th season. I didn't expect him to play this well.
With that said, it is shocking that the Lakers are doing this bad, but I'm sure they'll do better later on this season. I rather rate players in tiers than in actual numbers, but I guess numbers are more fun to debate about even though I don't think it's all that accurate.
Re: If Kobe Can't Win It All in 2013 Then He Should NOT Be Top 10
OP stfu even if Kobe won you'd make threads about how "he's not top ten of all time because he needed a stacked team to win"
