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Old 02-28-2015, 02:56 PM   #1
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Default Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

http://science.howstuffworks.com/lif...-feel-pain.htm

Plants are apparently much smarter than we thought, and they do have some sort of consciousness which allows them to feel pain and distress in certain situations. Not only do they feel pain, but the SCREAM when in pain.

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According to researchers at the Institute for Applied Physics at the University of Bonn in Germany, plants release gases that are the equivalent of crying out in pain. Using a laser-powered microphone, researchers have picked up sound waves produced by plants releasing gases when cut or injured. Although not audible to the human ear, the secret voices of plants have revealed that cucumbers scream when they are sick, and flowers whine when their leaves are cut [source: Deutsche Welle].

Wow. So Vegetarians who choose to eat vegetables because they are against animal abuse will have to stop eating plants and vegetables. What will happen? What will they eat? Will they die?
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http://science.howstuffworks.com/lif...-feel-pain.htm

Plants are apparently much smarter than we thought, and they do have some sort of consciousness which allows them to feel pain and distress in certain situations. Not only do they feel pain, but the SCREAM when in pain.



Wow. So Vegetarians who choose to eat vegetables because they are against animal abuse will have to stop eating plants and vegetables. What will happen? What will they eat? Will they die?


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Old 02-28-2015, 03:01 PM   #3
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Default Re: Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

How does releasing gases or noises equate to actually feeling something?
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Default Re: Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

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How does releasing gases or noises equate to actually feeling something?
yeah i'd be interested in seeing the science behind it.
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Old 02-28-2015, 03:10 PM   #5
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Default Re: Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

Feeling something is merely a chemical release. All life and consciousness is a interpretation of chemical concentrations and reactions. This is basic science.

You feel it through a nervous system and "physical pain", plants feel it through gibberellins, salycic, jasmonates, etc.

This isn't new. It's called plant physiology and molecular biology.
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Default Re: Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

Plants are alive, by eating plants you end their lives, there is no way around that.
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Old 02-28-2015, 03:31 PM   #7
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Default Re: Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

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Feeling something is merely a chemical release. All life and consciousness is a interpretation of chemical concentrations and reactions. This is basic science.

You feel it through a nervous system and "physical pain", plants feel it through gibberellins, salycic, jasmonates, etc.

This isn't new. It's called plant physiology and molecular biology.

this. I remember hearing this back in school but I think it's not so much feeling "pain" (they lack the nerves to) but these studies are showing they have a reaction to what we would consider painful stimuli.
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Default Re: Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

should vegetarians and vegans start eating chickens cows and pigs and develop cancer instead?
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Default Re: Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

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should vegetarians and vegans start eating chickens cows and pigs and develop cancer instead?
Vegatarians get cancer too......
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Vegatarians get cancer too......

but they are less likely to.......
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Default Re: Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

You dont end the organisms life when you eat their fruit. fruits nuts dairy products and eggs made from ovulation cause no life to end.
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Default Re: Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

If you're pro-life eating a fruit is eating a baby.

Eating a vegetable is eating its flesh.
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If you're pro-life eating a fruit is eating a baby.

Eating a vegetable is eating its flesh.


Why are you scared to discuss evolution?
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Default Re: Vegetarian lives are shattered - turns out plants can feel pain and distress too

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How does releasing gases or noises equate to actually feeling something?

This is what I was wondering. They can have responses, but those responses don't guarantee that pain is involved.
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