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Old 09-04-2012, 09:03 AM   #1
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Default Bigass Poltical thread Part V: The Democratic Convention

The Democratic Convention begins today.

Speakers for the first couple of days are here

After that all the Debates are in October.

October 3, 2012
Topic: Domestic policy
Moderator: Jim Lehrer (Host of NewsHour on PBS)

October 11, 2012
Vice Presidential
Topic: Foreign and domestic policy
Moderator: Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent)

October 16, 2012
Topic: Town meeting format including foreign and domestic policy
Moderator: Candy Crowley (CNN Chief Political Correspondent)

October 22, 2012 Topic: Foreign policy
Moderator: Bob Schieffer (Host of Face the Nation on CBS)
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:11 AM   #2
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Default Re: Bigass Poltical thread Part V: The Democratic Convention

It appears the convention is not helping Mitt enough and you have to go back to Bob Dole to find a convention speech that helped the candidate less.

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Romney post-convention bump looks modest at best

The folks at Gallup have completed their post-GOP convention polling duties, and the reviews are not complimentary. Mitt Romney has enjoyed little or no post-convention bump, and his acceptance speech was rated excellent or good by just 38 percent of those who saw it.

While that may not sound terrible, Gallup reports that it is easily the worst rating given to any of the last eight convention acceptance speeches.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:21 AM   #3
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I think it was a brilliant move to let Clinton take the main speech on the next to last day instead of going to Biden as tradition normally dictates.

Biden will speak just before Obama on the last day which should minimize the impact of any gaffs he could have.

I'm guessing the Dems will make a heavy push to remind people what it was like when Clinton was in office.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:28 AM   #4
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Joe Biden provided a glimpse of what we'll see at the convention when he repeated his "bumper sticker" line:

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If you want to know whether we're better off, I got a bumper sticker for you: Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive!"

The RNC in Charlotte is holding a counter-convention at NASCAR plaza.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:31 AM   #5
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Didn't know they were doing that. Just saw one article where they think that Clinton will point out the Romney is lying about Obama and Welfare in his recent ads.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:05 AM   #6
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Didn't know they were doing that. Just saw one article where they think that Clinton will point out the Romney is lying about Obama and Welfare in his recent ads.


from the recent New Yorker article on the relationship between Clinton and Obama.


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Barack Obama and Bill Clinton have never been close. Some of their advisers concede that the two men donít really like each other. They have openly disagreed on policy issues and political strategy, and the acrimony generated during the 2008 Democratic primaries, when Hillary Clinton ran against Obama for the nomination, has yet to fully dissipate. Nevertheless, a carefully orchestrated reconciliation of sorts has been under way for some time now. The former Democratic President, long spurned by the current one, has been given a prominent speaking spot at the Convention, in Charlotte, the night before the Presidentís speechóa spot usually reserved for the Vice-President. Joe Biden was bumped to the following night, in the slot immediately before Obama.

The reconciliation began in earnest late last summer. Patrick Gaspard, the former White House political director, who has moved to the Democratic National Committee, approached Douglas Band, Clintonís closest political adviser and longtime gatekeeper, with some suggestions about how the former President might help with Obamaís 2012 reŽlection campaign. Band, who, by reputation, has an acute sense for moments of political advantage, tried to explain that you donít just call up Bill Clinton and tell him to raise money and campaign for you. Band recommended that the two Presidents begin by playing golf. The next day, Obama phoned Clinton and invited him out for a round. Several Clinton associates say that this was the moment they realized that Obama truly wanted to win in 2012. Why else would he spend hours on a golf course being lectured by Clinton?

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the full article is pretty long but an interesting read.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:18 AM   #7
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[quote=kentatm]from the recent New Yorker article on the relationship between Clinton and Obama.

Clinton and Obama are probably the two best politicians of our time. Karl Rove is probably the greatest political mind of our time.
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There was a big festival downtown yesterday that got completely ruined by torrential rain and dangerous lightning. James Taylor sang one song and called it quits, lol. The Gods are angry, angry I tell you.
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Old 09-04-2012, 02:25 PM   #10
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There was a big festival downtown yesterday that got completely ruined by torrential rain and dangerous lightning. James Taylor sang one song and called it quits, lol. The Gods are angry, angry I tell you.


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Old 09-04-2012, 03:04 PM   #11
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Clinton and Obama are probably the two best politicians of our time.


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how can they top Clint Eastwood?
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facepalm yourself.

learn how to quote people correctly brah.


and Obama did take out the Clinton machine which was pretty damn impressive.
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Im hardly an Obama fan, but he is head shoulders above the other politicians on the scene right now...

the landscape is barren...

the GOP has nothing but bums... tomato cans

Newt Gingrinch? That clown wouldnt get the time of day in a field with other REAL politicians...

Bachmann?
Herb Cain?
Rick Perry?
Santorum? haha..


These guys are junior varsity politicians.. Replacements for real politicians who have for some reason abandoned the scene..

There used to be a good crop of solid politicians out there. Even the Republicans had a few good ones.... They were all liars just like these politicians are today, but they at least knew their stuff and werent so flagrant with the propaganda and dishonest rhetoric...
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Im hardly an Obama fan, but he is head shoulders above the other politicians on the scene right now...

the landscape is barren...

the GOP has nothing but bums... tomato cans

Newt Gingrinch? That clown wouldnt get the time of day in a field with other REAL politicians...

Bachmann?
Herb Cain?
Rick Perry?
Santorum? haha..


These guys are junior varsity politicians.. Replacements for real politicians who have for some reason abandoned the scene..

There used to be a good crop of solid politicians out there. Even the Republicans had a few good ones.... They were all liars just like these politicians are today, but they at least knew their stuff and werent so flagrant with the propaganda and dishonest rhetoric...

You're only naming Republican politicians. Let's be fair, Obama had only 2 months of experience in office prior to being elected. Being a good politician is someone who can be more of a centrist and not as divisive as this administration has been. Reading from a teleprompter all the time doesn't help either. But let's speak truth here, there are far better Democrats than him.
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