Originally Posted by DonDadda59
The Sopranos was never about making the audience 'feel good' or giving them closure. It was nihilistic/absurdist at its core ("It's all a big nothing") and the finale was in line with that. Season 5 of the Wire pissed me off, especially since it followed the brilliant 4th season. I haven't seen it since it aired, so maybe I'd feel differently now but it was easily the weakest of the 5 seasons by a good margin.
how come you feel that way? i don't necessarily disagree with you that it was the weakest, though certainly not by a good margin. it wasn't as strong only because it wasn't as long. i think there are only ten episodes compared to thirteen for each of the others, seems it just wasn't very popular at the time, didn't have a steady following. that makes sense, it'd be a very tough show to follow and make sense of weak by weak as opposed to digesting multiple episodes per sitting.
i've heard the criticism before and understand it but i'm curious about your reasons. i've been casually going through each of the seasons randomly, probably my 4th or 5th viewing at this point. season five works really well at least for me, primarily because the newsroom is simon's home, his bread and butter... and for him, the integrity of the fourth estate is dependent on dutifully holding a mirror to every other societal institution to keep them in check lest they fall by the wayside. unfortunately as s5 shows, the press is a profit-driven institution as well, and there's nobody to watch the watchers. that was the moral of the tale i got anyway.
might be lotta folks can't get invested in the B-Sun story arc in quite the same way they did with the BPD, barksdale organization, the school system, and others. similar to the distance people felt from the docks/unions plot though popular opinion has come around on s2 since then.
same question to you jdg, care to elaborate? but yeah, the wire and it is hands down and nothing gets close. not breaking bad, not game of thrones, not dexter or mad men or any of those. only two shows i hesitate not to rank a definitive tier below are the sopranos and deadwood, neither of which i've finished.