We are looking with total hindsight here though. There are very few situations where I'd be ok with Thabo as a starter on my team.
My list wasn't fully made in hindsight because the OP didn't really answer my question. Did he mean re-do our pick? Re-do the pick with some insight knowledge? Re-do the pick on just who you would want? Because all 3 of those are different questions. Based on who i'd want, Bargs wouldn't even be in my top 10. Based on value though at the time, i'd put him at 5.
But, regardless, i've disagreed with you about Thabo before. He worked his way into the rotation because of his stellar perimeter D and his ability to guard multiple positions. He's quick, he has great hands, he hustles, he can knock down the open J. He's that guy that every championship team needs, no matter whether it's starting or off the bench. If i'm starting a team from scratch sure i'd take Lowry over Thabo. But let's say I have a championship calibur roster and I need that one piece to push us over the edge, he might be that guy. It's not always about who has the most talent when you're talking about value to a team. Look at Shane Battier. Let's say on the Miami Heat of last year you had a choice between a younger Battier and current Kyle Lowry? Yeah, Lowry from a talent standpoint would be an upgrade on Chalmers but Battier's value to that Heat team was immeasurable.
You've gotta be kidding me if the consensus on this forum would be to have Bargs at FIVE... Rondo wouldn't be Rondo on a rebuilding team, trust and believe that. I'd still take Bargnani at one, today. You MIGHT be able to make a slight case for Aldridge but not with the type of money he's making. He has 3 years and 45M left on his deal, that guy got PAID. So with his contract vs. Bargs contract and his production vs. Bargs production we got a MUCH better deal on that. Dude is a borderline all-star making superstar money. Millsap, Gay, or Lowry before Bargs would be laughable.
My list would be this
If this is retrospect, Roy won't be on my list since we don't know if he's still capable of competing. But Brandon Roy of 2008 was an MVP candidate so in all honesty without his injuries he's the one guy from that draft that i'd consider giving the nod to over Bargnani even though i'd obviously prefer Bargs to him on our team.
If you rank the draft in hindsight starting with what Toronto "would/should have taken" if they didnt take Bargnani - it would be Rudy Gay or Tyrus Thomas.
Rudy or TT ( TT never worked out evidently) in all the mock drafts and talent analysis - they were the penetrating shooter that Toronto needed to bury the memories of Vince Carter and after all we had CB4 here already. Plus we had a fairly dynamic 1-2 punch at PG and a spectacular season from guys like Jorge Garbahosa and Anthony Parker.
Rudy ++ or Thomas -- would have been the pick in all honesty.
As for the list of top 10 as they are now... yes give or take minor variations boke15 has it about right. I thhink you could argue players 1 -2 spots either way depending on the last 10 game streak.
An impressive workout by LaMarcus Aldridge has the Toronto Raptors rethinking who they should take with the first overall pick in next week's NBA Draft, according to a report published by the Associated Press. Andrea Barganani was previously reported to be the favorite to become a Raptor.
General manager Bryan Colangelo said Wednesday that Aldridge?s recent workout in Toronto complicated things.
"We like what we see. There is tremendous talent at the top of this draft. LaMarcus Aldridge came in and if anything confused us a little bit more the other day. You are hoping for one of these guys to come in and stumble," Colangelo said.
He said they?re open to trading the pick but haven?t heard any acceptable offers.
"I know that there are some teams that are interested in No. 1," Colangelo said. "Maybe they haven?t said the right number yet or the right piece or the right combination of things to make us move yet, but right now all I can assure is that right now we hold the No. 1 pick and we?re prepared to make a selection on draft day."
On Wednesday, the Raptors worked out Gonzaga forward Adam Morrison, Connecticut forward Rudy Gay and Villanova guard Randy Foye.
Colangelo said injuries to LSU forward Tyrus Thomas (strained groin) and Washington guard Brandon Roy (hamstring) could preclude them from working out in Toronto, but they?ve already seen both of them at private workouts in Orlando and Los Angeles.
Colangelo said Bargnani will probably take a physical in New York before the draft. He doesn?t expect him to workout in Toronto.
"We?ve got as much information as we need. Now it?s a matter of processing information," Colangelo said.
The acquisition of center Rasho Nesterovic from the San Antonio Spurs on Wednesday doesn?t necessarily alter who they will pick, Colangelo said.
After a solid solo workout at the Air Canada Centre yesterday morning, Aldridge firmly established himself as one of the front-runners the Raptors might snap up with their coveted No. 1 selection.
"Had a good workout," was the initial assessment of Jim Kelly, the Raptors' director of player personnel and the designated team spokesman at these workouts. "Young man came in in excellent condition, very good shape. Impressed us with his running ability, his conditioning. He's been working hard the last month or two. Skilled athlete, good footwork around the basket.
"He's making us think awful long and hard because he's a very good basketball player."
Later, Kelly added: "When we get down probably to the people we're really seriously considering for the top spot -- we're probably at five or six players right now -- and he's definitely one of them."
Aldridge and Raptors forward Chris Bosh have been practicing together at a Dallas gym, and Bosh has gone on record supporting selecting Aldridge.
"He just said the coach [Mitchell] is a very tough coach," Aldridge said Bosh had mentioned to him during training sessions. "He believes in competing and holding players accountable to playing defence and going hard every day."He said he loves it over here. He said he loves the town, the team and just playing for them."
Before your last post I was gonna say that Bosh was/is friends with Aldridge and told management that he's the guy he wants them to pick, and they took Bargs anyways. As for my list, I would keep 1-4 as is. 5-10 I could have some variations such as Lowry being a higher rank but other than that, that's pretty much where i'd leave it.